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[Ginyu]

Adding to what Treldon said:

2. It will be usuable once per turn, so you'll gain each turn for free.
4. Stone Skin will only get you the max HP after the quanta is paid; anywhere else, it's the opposite.

[kirbylover314]

I called it, that one wasn't the last one! Yay.

Q. 1 – Is there a maximum amount of Bonewall shields that you can have in a slot? I've done a little testing in Trainer (as in Mitosis Damselfly Inundation Graveyard Eternity.. fun), and the limit isn't 1000 (I was at 1013 when I quit).

Q. 2 – When you use SoR on a Rustler, it doesn't let you get infinite quanta, correct?

Q. 3 – When using Miracle at full health, will you actually lose one HP?

Q. 4 – When using spells such as Stone Skin, Ice Bolt, and Drain Life, does the damage take into account the amount of quanta used by the spell or ignore it (ie. If you had 75 quanta and you used Stone Skin, would you get 75 HP or 73 HP?)

Q. 5 – Does SoFre cause creatures to also evade targeting from their owner (ie. using Blessing on a Wyrm with 4 SoFre on your field)?

Okay, sorry about having so many questions, but that's what this thread is for!

1) I have no idea.
2) Correct, because that would be OP. You get to use a SoR'd Rustler's ability once.
3) Yes.
4) The quanta is used first, then the damage dealt based on quanta is calculated.
5) Yes.

[Ginyu]

Q4: The former. So -2 water for ice bolt then divide by 10 is ice bolts damage.

4) The quanta is used first, then the damage dealt based on quanta is calculated.

Sorry, but that is false. Just use a Fire Bolt with 11 in your possession and notice you will deal 6 damage. The only exception - I have no reason, why - is Stone Skin.

[AD TienzuStorm]

I called it, that one wasn't the last one! Yay.

Q. 1 – Is there a maximum amount of Bonewall shields that you can have in a slot? I've done a little testing in Trainer (as in Mitosis Damselfly Inundation Graveyard Eternity.. fun), and the limit isn't 1000 (I was at 1013 when I quit).

Q. 2 – When you use SoR on a Rustler, it doesn't let you get infinite quanta, correct?

Q. 3 – When using Miracle at full health, will you actually lose one HP?

Q. 4 – When using spells such as Stone Skin, Ice Bolt, and Drain Life, does the damage take into account the amount of quanta used by the spell or ignore it (ie. If you had 75 quanta and you used Stone Skin, would you get 75 HP or 73 HP?)

Q. 5 – Does SoFre cause creatures to also evade targeting from their owner (ie. using Blessing on a Wyrm with 4 SoFre on your field)?

Okay, sorry about having so many questions, but that's what this thread is for!

1) I have no idea.
2) Correct, because that would be OP. You get to use a SoR'd Rustler's ability once.
3) Yes.
4) The quanta is used first, then the damage dealt based on quanta is calculated.
5) Yes.

Okay, thanks!

[Zawadx]

1. http://elementscommunity.org/forum/general-discussion/bripod%27s-list-of-etg-world-records/msg1037443/#msg1037443

Biggest bonewall made so far is greater than 2000, so prolly no limit.

[Tsmuji]

There's some confusion above, SoFree definitely does not affect you targeting your own creatures, using blessing/chaos power on your own wyrms for example works every time without fail. Also as regards the quanta usage on spells, as for stone skin I know it is definitely calculated first, so at n  you gain n-1 HP, for a max gain of 74 HP at the cap of 75  .

I'm not 100% sure on this part but as far as I'm aware the other spells work in exactly the same way, the confusion being around where the cutoff is.

Sorry, but that is false. Just use a Fire Bolt with 11 in your possession and notice you will deal 6 damage. The only exception - I have no reason, why - is Stone Skin.

Obviously your minimum quanta you can have is 0, so taking fire bolt as an example you should deal 3 damage at 0-9  , 6 at 10-19  and so on. In the example above you're not crossing over one of these cutoff points, try using fire bolt with 10  and you should only deal 3 damage.

[ddevans96]

Obviously your minimum quanta you can have is 0, so taking fire bolt as an example you should deal 3 damage at 0-9  , 6 at 10-19  and so on. In the example above you're not crossing over one of these cutoff points, try using fire bolt with 10  and you should only deal 3 damage.

Ice Bolt at 10 quanta before playing does 4 damage. Unless for some reason Fire Bolt is different, Ginyu is right. I'll test Fire Bolt to be sure though.

EDIT: Just tested, Fire Bolt at 10 quanta is indeed 6 damage.

[Dm]

Happens with all cumulative quanta spells, except for stone skin - Stone Skin will always give you the amount of HP equal to the earth quanta left AFTER casting the spell, so the max you can win un-upped is 73 and the max upped is 74.

[Ginyu]

Obviously your minimum quanta you can have is 0, so taking fire bolt as an example you should deal 3 damage at 0-9  , 6 at 10-19  and so on. In the example above you're not crossing over one of these cutoff points, try using fire bolt with 10  and you should only deal 3 damage.

I did, 11 - 3 = 8.

[Higurashi]

If you're going to reply to a question in this thread, please make sure you know the answer first. If you don't know, test before you reply. Stone Skin is indeed the only exception in the effect->quanta order check.

There's no soft-coded limit to Bone Wall stacks. You can keep going until you can't see the numbers anymore, but eventually you'll reach a limit that is just a restriction in the game (or Flash) code.

[AD TienzuStorm]

Wait, I'm so confused 

So which of the quanta based spells take the effect before quanta and which take quanta before effect?

Stone Skin
Fire Bolt
Ice Bolt
Drain Life (forgot about this one earlier)

[dragtom]

I just went ahead and tried it in the trainer for you.

Spoiler for results: