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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1174816#msg1174816
« Reply #2568 on: January 08, 2015, 10:34:47 pm »
Can anyone explain how the AI plays mitosis? is it case-sensitive, with it actually factoring in upkeep costs and opponents lobo's/mind flayers?
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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1175024#msg1175024
« Reply #2569 on: January 09, 2015, 10:23:19 pm »
Can anyone explain how the AI plays mitosis? is it case-sensitive, with it actually factoring in upkeep costs and opponents lobo's/mind flayers?
Unless it has changed in the past two three years, the AI barely considers anything. It picks the highest* attack creature it has that doesn't already have mitosis, adjusted for all the usual factors (for example, creatures with powerful skills like devour or freeze are worth double, and creatures that are poisoned are worth half since they will probably die and negate buffs/make CC unnecessary). It does not consider the cost of using mitosis. It does not pay attention to an enemy lobo, but if a creature is lobotomized it will no longer recognize the value of that skill and will be less likely to cast mitosis on that creature.


*technically, it selects for an attack as close to 25 as it can get. Presumably this was done for the sake of reusing code, and is equivalent to highest attack for all cases where current attack is anywhere near representative of the power of creatures spawned through mitosis

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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1175820#msg1175820
« Reply #2570 on: January 13, 2015, 09:17:54 pm »
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Has the arena reward system been changed? 192/4 works out as 48 per win which is double what I'd expect even if every win was a thumbs up, which is complicated by the fact that this is what I use to judge the ratings normally. Double seems suspiciously like an EM or something but afaik that doesn't count towards earnings for your arena deck. Not that I'm complaining anyway.  :)

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« Reply #2571 on: January 13, 2015, 09:22:50 pm »
you can make a new deck without cashing in the :electrum from the old one;
the missed :electrum doesn't vanish.
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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1175846#msg1175846
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Technically, saved up Electrum can be lost if you wait too long.
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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1175875#msg1175875
« Reply #2573 on: January 14, 2015, 12:20:45 pm »
Technically, saved up Electrum can be lost if you wait too long.

How long?
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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1175878#msg1175878
« Reply #2574 on: January 14, 2015, 02:47:03 pm »
you can make a new deck without cashing in the :electrum from the old one;
the missed :electrum doesn't vanish.

I collect earnings every time I make a new deck out of habit, like I said I use it to judge ratings.

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« Reply #2575 on: January 14, 2015, 03:35:24 pm »
Technically, saved up Electrum can be lost if you wait too long.

How long?
I think you'd have to ask Nap x)

As for Tsmuji's issue, it seems related to how Arena rewards bork from time to time due to the algorithm needing to reset. I've had a similar thing happen to me before, though it's odd that you got exactly 48 for each since it's double of a thumbs-up win. It's as if you were in the top 10 and got thumbs up on all wins, which seems very unlikely even if your deck is original.
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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1175887#msg1175887
« Reply #2576 on: January 14, 2015, 06:18:04 pm »
Technically, saved up Electrum can be lost if you wait too long.

I didn't collect cash from arena for over year period, kept making decks thought, and had over 100000 electrum saved.
I didn't bother to write a bug, that 6 digits didn't fit properly anymore, overlapped the line from under Electrum earned to button above.
What would this technically losing saved money be? Maybe major game update reseting arena savings, but not otherwise I'd say.

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Most likely a Flash bug that occurs when your Arena deck resets after several days of inactivity. Your Oracle card turns into Skeleton and you get the Arena guide again.
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Re: Ask a simple question, get a simple answer https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21501.msg1176274#msg1176274
« Reply #2578 on: January 19, 2015, 05:02:59 am »
why isn't lycanthrope as powerful as graboid?
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« Reply #2579 on: January 19, 2015, 05:06:12 am »
Lycanthrope has at least one turn of vulnerability before the ability can be used. The attack is also less than Shrieker's attack, while the cost is only 1 less.
Graboids can be left unevolved against heavy CC until the last turn, while Lycans can't.

 

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