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Antimatter-Wrong time? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10069.msg121574#msg121574
« on: July 23, 2010, 01:57:10 am »
Has anyone ever noticed how antimatter screws you over if you don't play it right?

Example:

I have 100 health

There are two light dragons on the field

They are both perfectly equal

I antimatter one of them

Each turn the antimatter one attacks first not healing me because I'm maxed out then the normal one attacks and hurts me


Now this really drives me crazy especially if I add a shield I should be getting healed but instead I get damaged

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Re: Antimatter Bug? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10069.msg121580#msg121580
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2010, 02:09:21 am »
Depend on their attacking sequence (come into play sequence)
always antimatter the last creature come into play
then you can get the heal

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Re: Antimatter Bug? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10069.msg121590#msg121590
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2010, 02:17:11 am »
Why did you name the title "Antimatter Bug?" when there is obviously no bug involved?

Look on the positive side: You can never go under 90 hp. (unless he plays another creature)

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Re: Antimatter Bug? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10069.msg122166#msg122166
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2010, 06:43:10 pm »
You can see what order they attack by moving mouse over and seeing the number in the middle of the info box. Always use it on the 2nd/last dragon to attack, so that it heals the earlier damage. There are times where you play it when there is only 1 dragon and thus the heal gets wasted at times, but it only gets wasted if you're at full health anyways so its not that big of deal. The only difference it makes is that it wont heal you for EM after all the others attack.

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Re: Antimatter Bug? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10069.msg122179#msg122179
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2010, 06:56:56 pm »
Why did you name the title "Antimatter Bug?" when there is obviously no bug involved?

Look on the positive side: You can never go under 90 hp. (unless he plays another creature)
I named it Antimatter Bug? because I wasn't sure I really thought it needed to be changed.  I do know to always attack the last creature but I get antimatter early use it on the strongest farthest back creature, and what do you know up pops some more dragons or whatever it is.  However I still think this needs to be fixed so that Antimatter creatures ALWAYS go last

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Re: Antimatter Bug? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10069.msg122225#msg122225
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2010, 07:30:58 pm »
That would make anti matter too powerful imo. It would be like a guaranteed EM card... its already arguably the most powerful cc spell for pure damage purposes due to not only removing a creature's damage, but actually making it heal you as well. Making it put the target creature last on attack order would just be OP.

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Re: Antimatter Bug? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10069.msg122255#msg122255
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2010, 07:56:51 pm »
How about no? I think there should be a premium on waiting for an identical creature to come out and then casting antimatter on it as it is currently.

If there's any bug it's antimatter pufferfishes still poisoning opponent--healing your opponent is certainly not a successful attack.

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Re: Antimatter Bug? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10069.msg122259#msg122259
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2010, 07:59:11 pm »
Even more overpowered than Fractal?  It wouldn't really change the amount of damage because you eventually get all the way back up to 100 with what I talk about but I don't get EM when I should.  I can't think of an instance where it would change a win.

It isn't a bug just a suggestion.  I was wondering if it was a bug at the beginning though.

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Re: Antimatter Bug? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10069.msg122265#msg122265
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2010, 08:06:30 pm »
Its no different than SoG's waiting until after your creatures attack to heal. Its not nearly as convenient as it would be to have them heal before, but it adds a bit of strategy to try to make your weapon do the kill so you can get EM and/or use bonds which heal while your creatures attack. Every card/spell has bonuses/drawbacks. Its just part of the way the game is balanced. 

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Re: Antimatter Bug? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10069.msg122323#msg122323
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2010, 09:15:48 pm »
I guess but it still irks me.  I still get the win with 90 something hp but I can't get a EM because its OPed if I could.

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Re: Antimatter Bug? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10069.msg122572#msg122572
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2010, 12:58:23 am »
I guess but it still irks me.  I still get the win with 90 something hp but I can't get a EM because its OPed if I could.

You can. You should antimatter the last one that attacks.

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Re: Antimatter Bug? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=10069.msg122575#msg122575
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2010, 01:04:33 am »
I guess but it still irks me.  I still get the win with 90 something hp but I can't get a EM because its OPed if I could.

You can. You should antimatter the last one that attacks.
Please read the previous posts.  I said that I usually antimatter the first dragon or golem that comes out.  Vampire if available.  Guess what more usually come out but its needed to antimatter the earlier thing.

 

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