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Elements the Game => General Discussion => Topic started by: bogtro on March 04, 2012, 02:51:09 am

Title: 0 turn win
Post by: bogtro on March 04, 2012, 02:51:09 am

In trainer (without starting quanta), was able to obtain 0 turn EM (against AI0) utilizing the new Shard of Bravery. Doesn't actually mean anything, but it looks cool :D

(http://i.imgur.com/SOgea.png)

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 6s3 6s3 6s3 6s3 6s3 6s3 6u3 6u3 77l 77l 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7qb 7tg 7tg 808 80b 8po

(Probably not optimal, and I changed it about 9001 times over the course of trying to get this).

Thanks to Iman00b8 for encouraging me to waste all this time :P

EDIT: Hell yeah. Same deck got 0-turn EM over AI3:
(http://i.imgur.com/FEXen.png)

Title: Re: 0 turn win
Post by: glennfoo on March 04, 2012, 03:08:01 am

that is incredible..... o turn win..... that is something..

Title: Re: 0 turn win
Post by: willng3 on March 04, 2012, 03:10:49 am

Nobel Prize.  Give it to this man.

Title: Re: 0 turn win
Post by: furballdn on March 04, 2012, 03:12:23 am

0TTW? Against a 100hp opponent? Without using max quanta?
(http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/282-mother-of-god.jpg)

Title: Re: 0 turn win
Post by: n00b on March 04, 2012, 03:12:34 am

So much win.

Title: Re: 0 turn win
Post by: Xenocidius on March 04, 2012, 03:21:22 am

I think we've proved once and for all that Holy Light is gratuitously and irrevocably overpowered. It must be removed from the game.

Title: Re: 0 turn win
Post by: n00b on March 04, 2012, 03:25:02 am

Quote from: Xenocidius on March 04, 2012, 03:21:22 am

I think we've proved once and for all that Holy Light is gratuitously and irrevocably overpowered. It must be removed from the game.

This. It is so overpowered that bogtro can win on turn 0 with it UNUPGRADED... imagine what he could do if he upped it

Title: Re: 0 turn win
Post by: dragonsdemesne on March 04, 2012, 03:31:21 am

I think this validates my post I made a few minutes ago in another thread, where I said that shard of bravery would break instosis, voodoo universe, and speedbow.  That's 1/3 proven so far :)

Title: Re: 0 turn win
Post by: Xenocidius on March 04, 2012, 03:35:14 am

Quote from: dragonsdemesne on March 04, 2012, 03:31:21 am

I think this validates my post I made a few minutes ago in another thread, where I said that shard of bravery would break instosis, voodoo universe, and speedbow.  That's 1/3 proven so far :)

Oh, they're both broken too. (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,37209)

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Title: Re: 0 turn win
Post by: glennfoo on March 04, 2012, 03:47:50 am

then you guys have any suggestions?? i like the card actually but i prefer a shard of fire  that is well liked by all and not too op

Title: Re: 0 turn win
Post by: Aves on March 04, 2012, 04:03:24 am

Zanz did mention the nerfing of nova/supernova with the 'singularity' concept. If you'll note the prevalence of that card in all 3 decks... :)

Title: Re: 0 turn win
Post by: glennfoo on March 04, 2012, 04:05:16 am

Quote from: Aves on March 04, 2012, 04:03:24 am

Zanz did mention the nerfing of nova/supernova with the 'singularity' concept. If you'll note the prevalence of that card in all 3 decks... :)

so your idea in balancing this card is??

Title: Re: 0 turn win
Post by: kimham8a on March 04, 2012, 04:14:44 am

IMHO, I think what he was saying was that an OP card will now be not OP because there is another, even more OP card. Nvm, that sounds stupid as I say it. :P

Title: Re: 0 turn win
Post by: Aves on March 04, 2012, 04:19:01 am

No, what I'm saying that because one OP card, nova/SN, will be nerfed, other cards that would be OP, like SoBe, are also nerfed as it is harder to pay the quanta to use it.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17265.msg498612#msg498612

As I said... see what zanz said.  ::)

Title: Re: 0 turn win
Post by: Drake_XIV on March 04, 2012, 04:30:37 am

One, SoBr can easily be ran without SN, so that point is null.

Two, this is not a discussion on the supposed OP nature of SoBr and any attempts of fixing that.

Three, I've never thought of using Holy Light in that manner...

Title: Re: 0 turn win
Post by: furballdn on March 04, 2012, 04:34:02 am

Quote from: glennfoo on March 04, 2012, 04:05:16 am

Quote from: Aves on March 04, 2012, 04:03:24 am

Zanz did mention the nerfing of nova/supernova with the 'singularity' concept. If you'll note the prevalence of that card in all 3 decks... :)

so your idea in balancing this card is??

Increase cost to 6|4 or perhaps make the draw 1 card, 2 if mark of fire. This makes it a pretty unique precog that can be used by everyone, but not as broken by fire.

Title: Re: 0 turn win
Post by: Aves on March 04, 2012, 04:38:24 am

1. I'm not trying to stop the use of SoBe. I'm just noting that all of these 'OP' decks utilize SN+SoBe. I'd imagine they'd be far less OP with SN nerfed.

2. I agree that this is awesome, cool, neat, whatever [adjective]-. I think, however, that this implies a sense of 'OP' as well. Even if it is not meant for the actual game and just a really fun thing to see.