0 turn win

[kimham8a]

IMHO, I think what he was saying was that an OP card will now be not OP because there is another, even more OP card. Nvm, that sounds stupid as I say it.

[Aves]

No, what I'm saying that because one OP card, nova/SN, will be nerfed, other cards that would be OP, like SoBe, are also nerfed as it is harder to pay the quanta to use it.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17265.msg498612#msg498612

As I said... see what zanz said. 

[Drake_XIV]

One, SoBr can easily be ran without SN, so that point is null.

Two, this is not a discussion on the supposed OP nature of SoBr and any attempts of fixing that.

Three, I've never thought of using Holy Light in that manner...

[furballdn]

Zanz did mention the nerfing of nova/supernova with the 'singularity' concept. If you'll note the prevalence of that card in all 3 decks...

so your idea in balancing this card is??

Increase cost to 6|4 or perhaps make the draw 1 card, 2 if mark of fire. This makes it a pretty unique precog that can be used by everyone, but not as broken by fire.

[Aves]

1. I'm not trying to stop the use of SoBe. I'm just noting that all of these 'OP' decks utilize SN+SoBe. I'd imagine they'd be far less OP with SN nerfed.

2. I agree that this is awesome, cool, neat, whatever [adjective]-. I think, however, that this implies a sense of 'OP' as well. Even if it is not meant for the actual game and just a really fun thing to see.