[POLL] The worst element

[icybraker]

air has a theme: creature control + synergy with other elements.

Air has 3 creature control cards (1 if you include Gas, a card not meant for creature control).
1 of them is next to useless except against specialized decks (Thunderstorm) and is thus rarely used.
Owl's Eye is good but there are better weapons and better creature control alternatives.
Shockwave is overshadowed by Thunderbolt.

Basically, its creature control CAN be a theme but it needs more of it. It needs to have a certain "best" - something as good as Gravity Pull or Otyugh for or Lance and Potion for .

And synergy isn't really a theme.

I guess I'll start

I chose Air. This isn't because Air sucks; this is because every other element has a theme or a focus which makes it excel in its area, and I'm just not seeing that with Air.

Control at its finest.
Capitalizes on dying creatures.
Sheer, fast damage + perm control.
Epic offensive capabilities + perm control.
Very nice creature control.
Card control.
Extreme when lucky + perm control.
Great offense + great healing
Lockdown creature control.
Healing and overall defense
EVERYTHING!!!! (Defense and immortal offense)
Umm.. ... umm.... Flying Weapon?

Basically, it lacks an "identity" like the other elements do. It needs this, and it needs power to boot.

AIR is fine! Unstable Gas



DUH!![/size][/color]

1 card doesn't define an element. (Except maybe Otyugh )

As for air, FFQ+flying weapons+dive looks like a theme for me.

How is that a theme? They are three distinct cards/abilities. This combined with Dema's mention of a shield and killfer's mention of a damage permanent make for several VERY different cards. It's not unified.

[plastiqe]

I vote that this thread has the worst triple/quadruple posting containing butchered BBcode.

In the poll I voted for Light partly because I think it's a wimpy element and partly to annoy xdude.  : P

[Tea is good]

I voted for Light. Don't see any mono light decks that can actually do anything besides stall. It pwns darkness and death, but thats only 2 types. Never really worked for me. If angels could heal the player, they would be much better (nerfed holy light on a stick minus the creature control).

Noticed people not liking water. Yeah it's pretty bad as a mono (un-upped it is possibly the worst). If you count chrysoaras, then it skyrockets. Speed poison is hard to beat. I didn't pick it because Essence is an intimidating master. So I guess he's doing a job reinforcing the image of his element.

Also wanted to ask him if is Water themed signature "Accidents" are planned, or does something go wrong and "happen" to be fixed by water.

[Essence]

All of you who voted for Water, I challenge you to a mono-duel.  I'll show you in painful detail exactly why you're dead wrong.


Sorry, unit, I voted for Air.  Not that it's not cool, but it's the element that needs SOMETHING the most.  I agree with Icy; it's listed theme "Creatures that take advantage of their extra movement to deal additional damage to the opponent" appears in 1 creature (Wyrm), and it's lacking in any further coherence.

[Glitch]

Vampire.  A very solid rush.  Steal is evil, it's shield is evil, it's just all around awesome.  Great at what it does.
Great at what it does.
Permanent dominance
Token glass cannon
Almost went for this, but remembered otyugh and blackhole.
??  What's it going to do?!  Draw MORE bad cards?  I will NEVER understand how time mono works.
Nova, mutants, and lycanthropes.  Plus, can I get a butterfly effect?
The best element by far.
Lockdown creature control.  Nymphs kick ass.
Pretty poor creatures, but hope is really good, RoL is awesome, and miracle kicks butt.
Aether shield is a good card, as is factal.  Spark kicks ass.  And I suppose if you actually try killing creatures it might be competent as an opponent.
Flying weapon.  Dive.  The ONLY insta-kill.  Still... this was pretty low on the list.

[icybraker]

That's pretty cool. Especially the Permafrost Shield. I don't think I've seen it used before in a rainbow deck.

Quintessense is probably going to be the next big thing. I've only tried it once but I'm pretty sure it's redicilously overpowered when used with the likes of Otyugh or Fallen Druid.

Have you considered taking Miracle? I would definitely take it since you have nothing else that uses life.

Biggest problem with this deck is of course 4 x Shard of Gratitude. 99% of players don't have them so they cannot play this deck. I suggest you make a budget version without SoG's.

I didn't have all of the SoGs either but i substituted feral bonds and 1 miracle.. worked out great

Aether shield is a good card, as is factal.  Spark kicks ass.  And I suppose if you actually try killing creatures it might be competent as an opponent.

Really, I've stopped trying.

??  What's it going to do?!  Draw MORE bad cards?  I will NEVER understand how time mono works.

Silurian Dragon, probably the second best dragon in the game. See Puppy's no-bad-draw mono .

And who says it has to be mono? Time has many great cards that work well with other elements, the most noticeable being Hourglasses and Sundials - both very powerful in duo and rainbow decks. Scarabs, Pharaohs, and Deja Vus all have their place in powerful duo decks. Eternity is a great creature control weapon and anti-deckout; Reverse Time is brutal creature control; Procrastination is one of the most powerful shields in the game. It's got a lot of stuff.

[finkel]

There are definitely other insta-kills, dude.

I voted for time. All it really has going for it is speed. Any element can beat time just using healing, stalling, and creature control. It will just deck out.

I'm talking about mono-time by the way.

Rewind. Eternities. 'nuff said

[Glitch]

Now, when you say siluran dragon is a good dragon, realize you are complimenting a 13|4 that costs 12, while talking to the guy who expects to be able to get 15 damage for 6.

While time has a monopoly on draw cards, it relies on other elements entirely to supply the cards worth drawing.  In fact, if ANY other element had draw cards in it, I'm willing to bet most rainbows would use it instead.

Time's "thing" is drawing cards, but I fail to see any reason why I would want to draw cards early.

Speaking of which, I just got an idea for a new card....

[icybraker]

realize you are complimenting a 13|4 that costs 12

I fully realize this. These are good stats. In ONE card - without having to waste cards on combos - you get a massively hard-hitting creature that can survive a round of mass creature control for a cost less than its attack. Pretty good, if you ask me.

In fact, if ANY other element had draw cards in it, I'm willing to bet most rainbows would use it instead.

I'm willing to bet against it. If Gravity had draw cards, it wouldn't be used in a rainbow because of its high cost.

Time's "thing" is drawing cards, but I fail to see any reason why I would want to draw cards early.

Umm... for a faster setup? For more damage?

And have you actually played with/against Puppy's deck? You'd be quite surprised.

Plus, even if your "mono sucks" holds any ground, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Gravity doesn't make a very good mono, but it's its other cards (Oty, Black Hole) that have awesome synergies that make it powerful.

[Retribution]

I'm going to vote for light. It has weak offense (except it's dragon, but then all dragons are offensive), no creature control (except against dark/death) or permanent control.

It also has weak shields and the only thing it can really do is heal and stay alive. Sorry 

[jmizzle7]

I'm going to vote for light. It has weak offense (except it's dragon, but then all dragons are offensive), no creature control (except against dark/death) or permanent control.

It also has weak shields and the only thing it can really do is heal and stay alive. Sorry 

Mono light has access to Archangel, a very resilient creature that deals a lot of damage for a very reasonable cost. In addition, Holy Light / Holy Flash is one of the purest forms of elemental hate, killing nearly any death or darkness creature it targets.

[Bloodshadow]

I'm going to vote for light. It has weak offense (except it's dragon, but then all dragons are offensive), no creature control (except against dark/death) or permanent control.

It also has weak shields and the only thing it can really do is heal and stay alive. Sorry 

Um... I beg you pardon? Hope is like the strongest shield in the game... No other shield can achieve 18+ defense!

Whoever picked Darkness is on my hit list. I may not be Master of Darkness anymore, but Darkness is still the best element ever.

I'm sorry, Acelink and Unit, but I have to vote for Air on this one. Same reason as Icy, because Air lacks an identity, a "theme".