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Re: [Poll] How many nymphs do you have? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5189.msg85706#msg85706
« Reply #180 on: June 08, 2010, 02:03:38 pm »
its stupid i have been playing elements for like 6 months and i have gone to the oracle every day since the oracle came out and i still have won no nymphs cmon this is stupid!!!! i need a damn nymphs ahhhhhhhhhh  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:D :o :o :o >:D >:D :'( :'( :'( :( :( :( :(
So you're the one offsetting Kael Hate's crazy luck... :)
Kael didn't get his nymphs because of luck. He cheated to get all of his nymphs.
I thought he only exploited a bug to get 8 of his 25 or so nymphs... take away the 8 and he's still really lucky...

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Re: [Poll] How many nymphs do you have? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5189.msg85708#msg85708
« Reply #181 on: June 08, 2010, 02:09:42 pm »
It'll be someone who did whatever kael (might've been someone else) did to get loads of aether nymphs
For a 120+ spins most persons should have 10 or so nymphs, but some people have none so to balance the average logically some people will have 20 or more.
Hypothetical math < Data. Unless that math is done directly from the coding of the oracle, I find it hard to believe at this point. The distribution looks fairly normal, skewed right and centered around 2 nymphs or so, not 10. I'm just saying its a lot luckier to have 20 than unlucky to have 0 according to the data collected in the poll.

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Re: [Poll] How many nymphs do you have? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5189.msg85721#msg85721
« Reply #182 on: June 08, 2010, 02:41:08 pm »
I thought he only exploited a bug to get 8 of his 25 or so nymphs... take away the 8 and he's still really lucky...
If by Exploit you mean went to the Oracle and spun the same as I did every day then sure. I didn't make any untoward action to create the situation but a situation did occur where for 7-8 days straight I always recieved the same result from the Oracle.


Kael didn't get his nymphs because of luck. He cheated to get all of his nymphs.
To me this is a variance, just like being dealt 4xAces in a game of cards. If that is somehow cheating then the accusers can get stuffed. I took no action against the game and no action against those accusing me yet I am somehow to blame. It all feels like Tall poppy syndrome. I got a break so the short Poppies  have to bring me down.

Btw when playing Blackjack, I've been dealt a death hand of 7 Ace of Spades, care to work the odds out on that for me. The Casino uses a 7xPack deck so there are 364 cards to pull from.

I also have a variant of a Disease that is so rare for a person of my demographics that If I'd played Gold Lotto since I was 18 that I would have better odds of winning first division twice.

LUCKY LUCKY ME!

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Re: [Poll] How many nymphs do you have? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5189.msg85729#msg85729
« Reply #183 on: June 08, 2010, 02:50:10 pm »
I thought he only exploited a bug to get 8 of his 25 or so nymphs... take away the 8 and he's still really lucky...
If by Exploit you mean went to the Oracle and spun the same as I did every day then sure. I didn't make any untoward action to create the situation but a situation did occur where for 7-8 days straight I always recieved the same result from the Oracle.

To me this is a variance, just like being dealt 4xAces in a game of cards. If that is somehow cheating then the accusers can get stuffed. I took no action against the game and no action against those accusing me yet I am somehow to blame. It all feels like Tall poppy syndrome. I got a break so the short Poppies  have to bring me down.

Btw when playing Blackjack, I've been dealt a death hand of 7 Ace of Spades, care to work the odds out on that for me. The Casino uses a 7xPack deck so there are 364 cards to pull from.

I also have a variant of a Disease that is so rare for a person of my demographics that If I'd played Gold Lotto since I was 18 that I would have better odds of winning first division twice.

LUCKY LUCKY ME!
well it wasn't entriely not  cheating, but it is no way your fault o_O so nothing will happen to them
maybe it would have been 'luck' if you were the only one getting the same thing each day, but as you said it was a bug/glitch or something so it's cool - you just got lucky it was a nymph ;)

~~EDIT~~
btw how much cash do you get when a nymph shows on the oracle's wheel?

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Re: [Poll] How many nymphs do you have? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5189.msg85737#msg85737
« Reply #184 on: June 08, 2010, 03:03:33 pm »
btw how much cash do you get when a nymph shows on the oracle's wheel?
This is the only one I recall recording and it says 300
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,2288.msg41234.html#msg41234

At one time with a few hundred change after the spin I could upgrade a card, I think that was 1200.

Whatever the amount was from the Aether Nymph is was nothing interesting. I was more overjoyed to get a Supernova from beating Destiny, Which was Aether Nymphs Chaos god at the time.

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Re: [Poll] How many nymphs do you have? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5189.msg85748#msg85748
« Reply #185 on: June 08, 2010, 03:21:58 pm »
I thought he only exploited a bug to get 8 of his 25 or so nymphs... take away the 8 and he's still really lucky...
If by Exploit you mean went to the Oracle and spun the same as I did every day then sure. I didn't make any untoward action to create the situation but a situation did occur where for 7-8 days straight I always recieved the same result from the Oracle.

To me this is a variance, just like being dealt 4xAces in a game of cards. If that is somehow cheating then the accusers can get stuffed. I took no action against the game and no action against those accusing me yet I am somehow to blame. It all feels like Tall poppy syndrome. I got a break so the short Poppies  have to bring me down.

Btw when playing Blackjack, I've been dealt a death hand of 7 Ace of Spades, care to work the odds out on that for me. The Casino uses a 7xPack deck so there are 364 cards to pull from.

I also have a variant of a Disease that is so rare for a person of my demographics that If I'd played Gold Lotto since I was 18 that I would have better odds of winning first division twice.

LUCKY LUCKY ME!
Easy... actually forgive me... I didn't mean to imply that you did anything wrong, but I did say you exploited a bug... wrong wording on my part.  I was just going off of a post you made where you said a glitch gave you 8 nymphs in a row... I never called you a cheater, and didn't mean anything when I said you exploited a bug... sorry

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Re: [Poll] How many nymphs do you have? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5189.msg85775#msg85775
« Reply #186 on: June 08, 2010, 04:02:39 pm »
Easy... actually forgive me... I didn't mean to imply that you did anything wrong, but I did say you exploited a bug... wrong wording on my part.  I was just going off of a post you made where you said a glitch gave you 8 nymphs in a row... I never called you a cheater, and didn't mean anything when I said you exploited a bug... sorry
Nah, I'm sorry. Only my first paragraph pertained to the quote of you, and my rant appears as a direct carry on from that when it was jmizzle who said I was a cheat.



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Re: [Poll] How many nymphs do you have? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5189.msg85818#msg85818
« Reply #187 on: June 08, 2010, 05:19:02 pm »
I thought exploiting a bug should get banned

The person who donated 0.01$ and changed variable to 100$ to get tonnes of shard got banned, he exploited a bug in the donation system and got banned

You exploited a bug too, i think we should get you banned, especially now that you admited it!

If you dont, I dont see justice in this, sorry guys...

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Re: [Poll] How many nymphs do you have? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5189.msg85838#msg85838
« Reply #188 on: June 08, 2010, 05:42:16 pm »
I thought exploiting a bug should get banned

The person who donated 0.01$ and changed variable to 100$ to get tonnes of shard got banned, he exploited a bug in the donation system and got banned

You exploited a bug too, i think we should get you banned, especially now that you admited it!

If you dont, I dont see justice in this, sorry guys...
he himself was not exploiting the bug -- the bug itself caused X players to become better off at the game by doing everything legit
they in no way did anything to use the bug or make the bug give them X cards -- they simply logged in and out each day to spin the oracle, so they got 9 of the same card? who cares - this stuff happens and we are not going to ban people for what the game does, whether or not it's a bug

If someone had got 9 skeltons you wouldn't complain, although they were still 'exploiting the bug' ¬.¬ no you would not even think to ban them for that -- so therefore kael shouldn't be banned  (although it would remove him from the path to my domination of the game! Ban kaal! ban kael!)

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Re: [Poll] How many nymphs do you have? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5189.msg85844#msg85844
« Reply #189 on: June 08, 2010, 05:46:40 pm »
I thought exploiting a bug should get banned

The person who donated 0.01$ and changed variable to 100$ to get tonnes of shard got banned, he exploited a bug in the donation system and got banned

You exploited a bug too, i think we should get you banned, especially now that you admited it!

If you dont, I dont see justice in this, sorry guys...
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If by Exploit you mean went to the Oracle and spun the same as I did every day then sure. I didn't make any untoward action to create the situation but a situation did occur where for 7-8 days straight I always recieved the same result from the Oracle.
I wouldn't call that a confession exactly... that's him "admitting" that the game was flawed and he didn't change his daily schedule to make up for a strait-out flaw in the game. That's the game's fault, not his. In your example, the person explicitly changed something to benefit himself, not the case in this situation.

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Re: [Poll] How many nymphs do you have? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5189.msg85882#msg85882
« Reply #190 on: June 08, 2010, 06:45:25 pm »
I recall he said in one of the post he used multiply sessions in the same account to spin the oracle daily...
This is a bug, that he exploited. Period

Imagine this, you saw a secret passage way thiefs use to break into the rich guy's house.
It is immoral to not tell the police, but not wrong
But what he is doing is, follow the passage way, and help himself with some money...

I dont care if he won 9 extra skeleton or 9electrum, or 9 darkness tower (yea, darkness sucks)
It is still wrong......

Oh by the way, saying the 9  skeleton part dont put up a valid arguement much, because you think i would be jealous... But I am just not that kind of person :)



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Re: [Poll] How many nymphs do you have? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5189.msg85901#msg85901
« Reply #191 on: June 08, 2010, 07:13:48 pm »
I recall he said in one of the post he used multiply sessions in the same account to spin the oracle daily...
This is a bug, that he exploited. Period
I never used multiple sessions ever. Show where I said I did this?

And if you want to refer to this http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,2288.msg83772.html#msg83772 make sure you realise that it says nowhere that I used the 2 Exploits just that I know about them. They were both reported on the forum and fixed by Zanz which is why I know about them.

 

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