Would you play Elements more if the cost of upgrades were lower?

[Daytripper]

Well,

I have just been playing for fun. Basic deck is earth with several expansions that could fit. Say, 90 upped cards.

I don't know what to buy now, other than a whole new rainbow deck. I can't afford that, though it would not be far away if I played. I saved some electrums. My earth ideas were dead ends. That is, nothing was any better than one main deck I am using.

So, I'm actually quite fed up with it. After endless grinding I would have 2 workable decks. That is not a lot of variation, and I'm not crazy about the opponents either. The high AI levels basically cheat, so those are really unfair games.

With the current costs, there is really no way to gradually add some upgraded cards and see how it goes. You should really collect a load of electrums, check in the trainer IF that idea works, and if it does, well, buy the whole deck. Sucks the fun right out of it.

[Korugar]

I have to go, so I'm not going to be able to respond to all your points, but how does the AI cheat?

[Daytripper]

Simple, the AI has more starters HP than you, and I heard there are other things as well.

[Korugar]

I guess it depends on your definition of cheating. Do you consider yourself to be cheating when you fight AI 0? After all, you do have twice as many HP as it. Anyway, that's only the top two levels, FGs and Half-bloods. You can still fight AI 3 and top 50, if you want to avoid those kinds of things.

[Daytripper]

You can consider it cheating, however the lower AIs will get you almost nothing. Then, I am not to blame for the design of the game.

It's too bad there is no AI with 30 to 45 upgraded cards that can give you a good game. Likewise, there is no good AI you could fight with unupped cards only.

Another huge improvement could be to give people real ratings. Defeating the AI wouldn't influence your rating, but playing pvp would. That way you would have some goal. Anyone can crush the AI over and over. But... defeating a human with high rating and then boosting your own rating, that is what it is about!

Right now there is too much focus on getting enough electrums... and making the upgrades cheaper won't even solve the problem of this game.

[Korugar]

Well, what's the higher AI you've ever actually played? By 'played' I don't mean tried once, got beat, and never played again, I mean seriously tried to beat for quite a few(10 at minimum) games with a serious deck? AI five has many of the advantages of FGs, but only a medium/small percentage of their cards are upgraded. Certainly not something to sneeze at, but with a fully upgraded good deck(not pure rush, it will probably need some sort of healing) I don't know why you would have a hard time with it.

[Daytripper]

I don't understand. I have a pretty good record against the AI5. The problem is, the AI5 has more HP. Therefore it is not a good battle. I only wonder why there is no strong AI with only 100 HP and upgraded cards only. Then it would be fair and more realistic...

The AI3 has problems as well. Most of those decks are inefficient because there are too many cards, that's why it's so vulnerable to an unupped rush.

So I'm not at all saying the AI is too strong. AI is mostly weak. It just has more HP.

[jmizzle7]

I don't understand. I have a pretty good record against the AI5. The problem is, the AI5 has more HP. Therefore it is not a good battle. I only wonder why there is no strong AI with only 100 HP and upgraded cards only. Then it would be fair and more realistic...

Have you ever played top 50? I hear some of those decks use upped cards.

[Korugar]

Yes, they do Actually, I'd say almost all do, though I might be mistaken or unlucky with my opponents.

[Daytripper]

Ai50 is quite unreliable. Not only does it often load slowly, some of the decks are in fact sheer farms. That being said, the AI50 is not dramatically strong. If you could isolate the good decks and decrease the loading times, it could be a welcome addition...

[jmizzle7]

Ai50 is quite unreliable. Not only does it often load slowly, some of the decks are in fact sheer farms. That being said, the AI50 is not dramatically strong. If you could isolate the good decks and decrease the loading times, it could be a welcome addition...

You can't blame me for being a farm, because I'm almost always a real deck. And I'm not sure what you are talking about with regard to loading time... I farm top 50 all the time and I have almost no loading time at all (less than two seconds).

[willng3]

Ai50 is quite unreliable. Not only does it often load slowly, some of the decks are in fact sheer farms. That being said, the AI50 is not dramatically strong. If you could isolate the good decks and decrease the loading times, it could be a welcome addition...

On a side note I would like to thank all of t50 players who allow us to use their farms; there are some people who appreciate it .