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Why does AI take over for players in PvP? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35379.msg445452#msg445452
« on: January 04, 2012, 11:30:13 pm »
When it comes to most online games that are similar in nature a leave or disconnect generally consist of you losing something, whether it be progress, items or a match there is usually something lost. Things like matches usually have two different out comes, one being that the game has a reconnect option so that if you've been kicked from the game for whatever reason you have the ability to reconnect within a certain time frame before you are awarded a lose, the second being you receive a lose and the opposing player wins.

When it comes to Elements there is no ability to reconnect to a game that was in progress, you immediately lose score and coins, so why must the opposing player be forced into having to continue the game they were in and lose time and potentially coins when they should just be awarded a win, coins, and the three spins?

The suggestion/Feedback I have is that the game in PvP should either give the leaving player a time window in which they can rejoin, and if they don't rejoin within that window they receive a lose and the opposing player receives a win. While the disconnect time is active the player that has left should not be taken over by the computer. The alternative to this that the game just ends when a player leaves and the opposing player receives a win and whatever prizes he would normal get.

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Re: Why does AI take over for players in PvP? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35379.msg445453#msg445453
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2012, 11:39:50 pm »
PvP already gives a time window for a player to reconnect by adding 10 seconds to the players turn clock. As far as I'm aware of how the game is coded, once a player disconnects it's not possible to "reconnect" and reenter a game - attempting to code that would probably make it much more buggy and likely to desync.

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Re: Why does AI take over for players in PvP? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35379.msg445942#msg445942
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2012, 09:25:09 pm »
Supposedly if you're playing PvP, you're playing for fun. Insta-winning isn't fun.
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Re: Why does AI take over for players in PvP? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35379.msg448806#msg448806
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2012, 11:25:18 pm »
it would make the game faster!

Re: Why does AI take over for players in PvP? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35379.msg450714#msg450714
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2012, 06:30:36 am »
Supposedly if you're playing PvP, you're playing for fun. Insta-winning isn't fun.
Apparently someone lied to you. What's not fun is being forced to play against an opponent that just leaves the game, allowing them to continue onto another game while I'm forced to have to play against a computer....not a player.....last I checked PVP1 means I play against players, not computers.

Re: Why does AI take over for players in PvP? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35379.msg454192#msg454192
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2012, 02:55:46 am »
Posting again to ask why the AI takes over for players in PvP1 instead of you just winning and being able to continue on the a new game. PvP1 suggest you're playing against players not AI cause the player just leaves cause they didn't get a good starting hand.

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Re: Why does AI take over for players in PvP? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35379.msg454197#msg454197
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2012, 03:11:18 am »
Posting again to ask why the AI takes over for players in PvP1 instead of you just winning and being able to continue on the a new game. PvP1 suggest you're playing against players not AI cause the player just leaves cause they didn't get a good starting hand.
Servers for PvP aren't that great. Having the AI take over ensures that you won't get a win too easily just in case of a desynch.

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Re: Why does AI take over for players in PvP? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35379.msg455609#msg455609
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2012, 12:21:20 pm »
I would suggest to give the choice to the remaining player, with a message like :

"lamequitter443 has left the game do you want to continue against the AI ?"

If the remaining player click yes, game continue as actually, and gets full advantages of an eventual win. If he clicks no, he isn't allowed to spin for cards, but get the money of an immediate victory (or at least a refund).

It would allow players who don't want to play the AI to quit without losing money, without being too exploitable for card farms.

(or just make so, when a player alone in a PvP game click "return to menu" he gets a refund)






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Re: Why does AI take over for players in PvP? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35379.msg456467#msg456467
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2012, 02:12:09 am »
I second that
Apparently someone lied to you. What's not fun is being forced to play against an opponent that just leaves the game, allowing them to continue onto another game while I'm forced to have to play against a computer....not a player.....last I checked PVP1 means I play against players, not computers.
and that.
If the remaining player click yes, game continue as actually, and gets full advantages of an eventual win. If he clicks no, he isn't allowed to spin for cards, but get the money of an immediate victory (or at least a refund).

It would allow players who don't want to play the AI to quit without losing money, without being too exploitable for card farms.
I play pvp because i want to be surprised, never knowing what my enemy will do and eventually beating him with a geniously timed combo that he never saw coming when he thought his game was all set.
AI does not only do stupid things (people do too, especially me!), but the stupid things are predictable and exploitable. ->boring
And what is most important to me: AI wont appreciate my genius epic win - or epic fail for that matter.
Everytime s.o. leaves a pvp match because he knows i beat him the good "i did it" - feeling gets immediately sucked up by the punishment of having to fight the AI for 5 more rounds.

 

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