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Re: Top50/Highscores Access [Kongregate] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27256.msg347144#msg347144
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2011, 12:46:52 am »
Your Quest --> t50 seems more like a loophole than the way it was intended. It is supposed to make people try and go to the main site for the extra features.
This.

And more importantly, by redirecting people to the main site, it generates hits for the banner ads. Do the game a favor, and stop teaching people to circumvent the system.  :)
When you said this it didn't mean much because elements on kongregate has the same features as mainsite except the large screen. I would guess the main importance is gaining the game hits which i would see the only reason why it will direct players to mainsite.
Yes! Hits are good, and the fact that hits on the ads helps sustain this free online CCG is even better. You can even just stay with Kong and use the Trainer to check the Highscores, since it has ads too.  ;)

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Re: Top50/Highscores Access [Kongregate] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27256.msg347158#msg347158
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2011, 01:07:11 am »
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Yes! Hits are good, and the fact that hits on the ads helps sustain this free online CCG is even better. You can even just stay with Kong and use the Trainer to check the Highscores, since it has ads too.  ;)
I would rather kongers know they can play on kongregate and have the same features (Which most doesn't know is possible) so a pop up message would be nice to make all players aware of this, maybe add some info of it somewhere.
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Re: Top50/Highscores Access [Kongregate] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27256.msg347167#msg347167
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2011, 01:10:42 am »
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Yes! Hits are good, and the fact that hits on the ads helps sustain this free online CCG is even better. You can even just stay with Kong and use the Trainer to check the Highscores, since it has ads too.  ;)
I would rather kongers know they can play on kongregate and have the same features (Which most doesn't know is possible) so a pop up message would be nice to make all players aware of this, maybe add some info of it somewhere.
Either make the feature (clicking on quest to access top 50 directly from kongregate) more obvious so people know its there and don't have to have it explained to them over and over.

Or eliminate it so people are forced to visit EtG

I don't see the value in disguising it

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Re: Top50/Highscores Access [Kongregate] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27256.msg347184#msg347184
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2011, 01:29:51 am »
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Yes! Hits are good, and the fact that hits on the ads helps sustain this free online CCG is even better. You can even just stay with Kong and use the Trainer to check the Highscores, since it has ads too.  ;)
I would rather kongers know they can play on kongregate and have the same features (Which most doesn't know is possible) so a pop up message would be nice to make all players aware of this, maybe add some info of it somewhere.
Either make the feature (clicking on quest to access top 50 directly from kongregate) more obvious so people know its there and don't have to have it explained to them over and over.

Or eliminate it so people are forced to visit EtG

I don't see the value in disguising it
You didnt read the rest did you. It isnt meant to work that way, you guys found a loophole.
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Re: Top50/Highscores Access [Kongregate] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27256.msg347376#msg347376
« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2011, 02:01:12 pm »
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Either make the feature (clicking on quest to access top 50 directly from kongregate) more obvious so people know its there and don't have to have it explained to them over and over.
Or eliminate it so people are forced to visit EtG
I don't see the value in disguising it
I agree that there needs to be a better way of making (clicking on quest to access top 50 directly from kongregate) more obvious but i disagree that Kongers should be forced to visit EtG because what's the point of being on kong if you wanted to Top50. Simply there just needs to be a way to make the top50 access more well known.
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You didnt read the rest did you. It isnt meant to work that way, you guys found a loophole.
Well i know that since back in the days there was a different main menu layout. :D
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Re: Top50/Highscores Access [Kongregate] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27256.msg347599#msg347599
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2011, 09:06:44 pm »
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Yes! Hits are good, and the fact that hits on the ads helps sustain this free online CCG is even better. You can even just stay with Kong and use the Trainer to check the Highscores, since it has ads too.  ;)
I would rather kongers know they can play on kongregate and have the same features (Which most doesn't know is possible) so a pop up message would be nice to make all players aware of this, maybe add some info of it somewhere.
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on the ads helps
I would rather people help pay for the game as the feature expects them to, rather than exploiting a workaround. Seriously, loading three ads will not kill you, even if one of them is the annoying MochiAds one. It's not even as if FGs or AI3 were blocked on Kong, merely T50.

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Re: Top50/Highscores Access [Kongregate] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27256.msg347700#msg347700
« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2011, 12:25:51 am »
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on the ads helps
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I would rather people help pay for the game as the feature expects them to, rather than exploiting a workaround. Seriously, loading three ads will not kill you, even if one of them is the annoying MochiAds one. It's not even as if FGs or AI3 were blocked on Kong, merely T50.
Don't we still have to load these ads if we open Trainer/Spectate plus there are alot of players who do play on EtG insted of Kongregate.
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Re: Top50/Highscores Access [Kongregate] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27256.msg347720#msg347720
« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2011, 01:17:37 am »
Still, you can't say that's enough for zanz.  ::)

As few people have mentioned; probably the reason zanz made the Top50/Highscores in Kong this way was to increase the site revenue. This is similar with other games in Kong, where there is a link to the game's main site; and in this case zanz decided it is Top50 and highscores access.

Personally, I feel that unless you can provide more supporting points for this suggestion (e.g. an alternative to this current method but still retain its benefit to zanz), I couldn't see how this discussion going anywhere.

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Re: Top50/Highscores Access [Kongregate] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27256.msg348132#msg348132
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2011, 09:50:40 pm »
I've seen other games on Kong with some features disabled, and even some where clicking the disabled button goes to the main page; the problem here seems to be that the button itself doesn't indicate that it goes to the main page (you have to look at the bottom of the game screen to see that) -- and so some players click the button, end up logged in on both sites, and don't realize that the two windows are overwriting each other.

If the interface can't be changed to prevent the confusion (and probably even if it can), then both Kong-Elements and mainsite-Elements should be changed to prevent the overwrites. I think it should work in the same way as Kong chat -- connecting in window 1 automatically disconnects in all other windows, but you can reconnect in window 2 just by clicking a button (which will disconnect you in window 1, and load the data that window 1 saved instead of the data window 2 had before).

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Re: Top50/Highscores Access [Kongregate] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27256.msg348456#msg348456
« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2011, 01:06:12 pm »
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If the interface can't be changed to prevent the confusion (and probably even if it can), then both Kong-Elements and mainsite-Elements should be changed to prevent the overwrites. I think it should work in the same way as Kong chat -- connecting in window 1 automatically disconnects in all other windows, but you can reconnect in window 2 just by clicking a button (which will disconnect you in window 1, and load the data that window 1 saved instead of the data window 2 had before).
Yes this is the problem i am talking about that players just don't understand so they do as you said above and lose there progess which they did in another window.
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Re: Top50/Highscores Access [Kongregate] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27256.msg348547#msg348547
« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2011, 04:18:41 pm »
We really need that button for kong,when people are redirected to main account and keep the kong acc opened they lost what they done on the official site.*sigh*
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