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Upgrading Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28152.msg359497#msg359497
« on: July 02, 2011, 12:29:12 am »
I'm probably not the only one who has suggested this, but I believe that pillars should cost less to upgrade, due to the number of pillars/towers in decks, and the fact that they are so essential.

Upgrading pillars is incredibly unrewarding, and only really makes a difference when all/most of them are upgraded. I'd suggest a reduction to around 1000 electrum per upgrade. As this would create a lot of outrage among players who have already spent good *virtual* money upgrading them, they'd probably need to be issued 500 (or less) electrum for each tower they own.

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Re: Upgrading Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28152.msg359510#msg359510
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2011, 01:18:00 am »
No way the refund would happen and towers are one of the better upgrades even if you do need several of them upped for it to be effective, so probably fine as it is

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Re: Upgrading Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28152.msg360039#msg360039
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2011, 04:38:43 am »
I would like if they cost around 1000 to upgrade, too. In fact, this could be for all cards, its a bit strange that upgrading 1 card costs like 1 entire unupgraded deck.

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Re: Upgrading Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28152.msg361050#msg361050
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2011, 10:22:22 am »
No way the refund would happen and towers are one of the better upgrades even if you do need several of them upped for it to be effective, so probably fine as it is
Why couldn't the refund occur? Have a small script count upgraded pillars and add a lump of cash for each one.
Towers are better upgrades than many cards, but many other cards are better choices than the towers. They also need to be upgraded en masse to be of any use, which makes the current cost exorbitantly high.

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Re: Upgrading Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28152.msg361080#msg361080
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2011, 11:47:18 am »
No way the refund would happen and towers are one of the better upgrades even if you do need several of them upped for it to be effective, so probably fine as it is
Why couldn't the refund occur? Have a small script count upgraded pillars and add a lump of cash for each one.
Towers are better upgrades than many cards, but many other cards are better choices than the towers. They also need to be upgraded en masse to be of any use, which makes the current cost exorbitantly high.
Because not all towers were bought, some were won, and some people may have also sold off towers, whether because they thought they wouldn't use that kind at the time or to fund a deck that they were building.  In short, what you are proposing is not nearly as simple as it sounds.
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Re: Upgrading Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28152.msg361122#msg361122
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2011, 01:55:47 pm »
No way the refund would happen and towers are one of the better upgrades even if you do need several of them upped for it to be effective, so probably fine as it is
Why couldn't the refund occur? Have a small script count upgraded pillars and add a lump of cash for each one.
Towers are better upgrades than many cards, but many other cards are better choices than the towers. They also need to be upgraded en masse to be of any use, which makes the current cost exorbitantly high.
Because not all towers were bought, some were won, and some people may have also sold off towers, whether because they thought they wouldn't use that kind at the time or to fund a deck that they were building.  In short, what you are proposing is not nearly as simple as it sounds.
Then a large compensation for everyone? The new players would benefit from the lower upgrade cost, and the veterans would get more cash to splash around on upgrades.

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Re: Upgrading Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28152.msg361131#msg361131
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2011, 02:08:32 pm »
If you want upped cards go farm instead of creating topic like this ;)
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Re: Upgrading Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28152.msg361142#msg361142
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2011, 02:26:45 pm »
About half my non-pillar cards are upgraded, but I'm woefully lacking on Towers (except for Quantum and Obsidian). They're the lowest on my upgrading priority list, and I imagine many other players feel the same. As for farming, that's a good idea. I'm gonna go farm Top 50 - oh, wait ...

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Re: Upgrading Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28152.msg361155#msg361155
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2011, 03:02:55 pm »
So yeah if you farm FG using varied deck you will be able to uppgrade all your pillar/pends before you get boring I think.
I recommand specially RoL/Hope which allows you too win an amazing amount of upped cards.
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Re: Upgrading Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28152.msg361310#msg361310
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2011, 09:03:55 pm »
I don't think that changing the price for any upgrades is a good idea. I definitely think that it takes a long time to upgrade but changing things is usually a really bad idea.

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Re: Upgrading Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28152.msg361472#msg361472
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2011, 01:59:15 am »
I don't think that changing the price for any upgrades is a good idea. I definitely think that it takes a long time to upgrade but changing things is usually a really bad idea.
Zanzarino changes things every time there's a new update. If the changed isn't retarded, it's a good thing. Lower upgrade costs make the game accessible to new players. What's your argument?

New players can't buy all the cards they want. They usually aren't good enough to build a deck that can fight false gods without reverting to a pre-defined one from the wiki. And grinding is BORING. Some people have other things to do in their lives, like work, or relationships.

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Re: Upgrading Pillars https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28152.msg361521#msg361521
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2011, 04:11:51 am »
I don't think that changing the price for any upgrades is a good idea. I definitely think that it takes a long time to upgrade but changing things is usually a really bad idea.
Zanzarino changes things every time there's a new update. If the changed isn't retarded, it's a good thing. Lower upgrade costs make the game accessible to new players. What's your argument?

New players can't buy all the cards they want. They usually aren't good enough to build a deck that can fight false gods without reverting to a pre-defined one from the wiki. And grinding is BORING. Some people have other things to do in their lives, like work, or relationships.
If you don't have time you should play backgammon or tic tac toe.

You can't just demand having the same number of upgraded cards as people playing this game for years....
I play for 2 months now and have 400-500 upgraded cards. It's not easy to get but that's the fun of the game. Work for it. It wouldn't be fun if you suddenly had all the cards, you would have no goal besides winning someone in PvP.



On the topic now, I would agree that towers should be cheaper, but I don't see any chance for it happening now. It's just too unfair for people who paid hundreds of thousands in electrum for upgrading pillars and pendulums for their decks.

 

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