This may be a re-incarnation of several past topics, REVAMMPED

[Zac33333]

Okay, so I look at the cards, and theres erm...
Alot.
SOOOO..
Lets more than triple the amount of unupped cards! Yeah!
I think maybe we should add a third upgrade system.
Heres an example (Pic coming soon):

4-Fallen Elf. 3|2, mutation.
5-Fallen Druid. 3|3, improved mutation.
7-Fallen Beast(Or whatever). 4|5, Ultra mutation(or whatever again)

Heres what I mean

The layout above is:
Cost-Card name. Atk|Def, Skill.

So for the third one, the card design could be black name text, description text, and gold frame.
As for the skill above, lets just say it is a guarantee to be mutated into a stronger beast (like chaos seed in a way)

As for the ones where you just added Elite to the title:
4-Otyugh. 0|3, Devour
5-Elite Otyugh. 0|5, Devour
7-Lord Otyugh. 0|10, Dinner

Now again, same layout. For the ones that just add the word elite to the front on first upgrade would become Lord Or Mistriss whatever. As for the "Dinner" Skill I used above, maybe can make otyugh use that skill 2 times per turn?
Hey, I can dream, cant I?

Anyways, lets talk Cost, AI, and Quests.

Cost:
I would suggest the third upgrade being 5k-10k, seeing as they are so powerful. Selling them would give back 2.5k or 5k, depending on how much it costs to upgrade. Selling a rare third grade card would be 3/4 of the upgrade cost, so 3.25k or 7.5k.

AI:
I would reccomend making a new AI for this card, maybe to be accessed by a new quest?
The AI would have to have half 1st upgrade and half 2nd upgrade. And maybe make a harder one to follow that which has all third grade cards, and this may also help make Hero Cards more of an accessibility, seeing how the hardest ai with all third-grade cards would have a hero card, so making the addition of hero cards a bit more graceful and smooth. Also, these cards should be hard to get, and the chances for winning spins would be:

Half 2nd-grade and half 3rd-grade card Ai (Ill call them Lord AI, 250hp):
7% chance to win upped card
2% chance to win third-grade cards.

All 3rd-grade card(And maybe hero card if your still planning that) Ai (Ill call him God AI 300hp):
10% to win 3rd grade card
(6% to win hero)
(4% to win upped hero)

Also, you would only get ONE spin, due to the hightened chances.

Sorry about the length of that XD

Quests: (Oh god will he ever shut up?! XD)

As for quests, you can make a multi-page quest screen, like You can be doing the Lord AI quest or the God AI quest but be able the change pages (Like have a next page prev. page button setup) Where you can do a quest or go back to do FGs/Up cards/Up cards again. Heres what I would figure you would do:

Page 1:
Upgrade Card, False God Challenge (Ai6)

Page 2 (Locked until 500 score quest is done):
Quest for the Lord of Elements
(After quest) Challenge the Lord again
Ultra-grade (or something catchy to mean another upgrade (CANT SKIP FIRST UPGRADE))

Page 3 (Locked untill Lord quest complete):
Quest for the GOD of Elements!
(After Quest) Challenge the God again?!
Un-Upgraded Rare Item shop (Maybe?)

So thats all I got to offer, and I think it would be a great and extensive release to Elements, and keep you on your feet, Zanz!

Yours truly,
Zac333
Zachary Shaffer

[dragonhuman]

I don't really care for the third tier of upgrades as it'd be too complex and would bridge the gap between newer people, medium people, and ultra pros

but if the idea would go on anyway make it so you can only upgrade a card when you beat the lord ai and only 1 per battle

[Zac33333]

I don't really care for the third tier of upgrades as it'd be too complex and would bridge the gap between newer people, medium people, and ultra pros

but if the idea would go on anyway make it so you can only upgrade a card when you beat the lord ai and only 1 per battle

I dont see how, because the Lord ai and the God ai would be two seperate and EXTREMELY HARD ai levels to beat. Think of fighting RAINBOW, SEISM, and OCTANE all at one time AND they have better, more advanced cards. That would be GOD ai. As for Lord ai, think of SEISM with OP cards and having twice the HP as you.

~EDIT~
Also added their HP.
Lord is 250, God is 300.
Try THAT!

[dragonhuman]

its just a thought, I don't want to see pvp/ top50 being impossible since everyone would have uber cards

[Zac33333]

its just a thought, I don't want to see pvp/ top50 being impossible since everyone would have uber cards

Well only 6 of each card, and its 10k per upgrade, plus you have to do an UBER hard quest.
Soo..erm...not that bad? At least newbies wouldnt get them

[Anothebrother]

icybraker has 300k offhand... so he already has a full deck full of these cards essentially...

[Bloodshadow]

No. I will stop playing Elements if this is ever implemented. A third upgrade and ridiculously hard AIs will only widen the gap between casual players and hardcore grinders, and I'm not a hardcore grinder.

[Zac33333]

No. I will stop playing Elements if this is ever implemented. A third upgrade and ridiculously hard AIs will only widen the gap between casual players and hardcore grinders, and I'm not a hardcore grinder.

Oh wow thats so unfair, playing the quit card to discourage mods XD And even if your not a hardcore grinder, you dont have to do this, this is why I recommended a 3 page quest tab setup.

But hey, your choice :p

[Fixari]

While the third upgrade is nice, it should only be done to "useless" cards.

And the rest is absolute garbage. (Not so) Sorry.

[b00mc1ap]

I like the idea of a third upgrade. However, the dinner skill should be  changed from being able to devour twice to getting +2/+2 per devour instead of +1/+1 because otyughs are already annoying enough.

Furthermore, to fix the extremely difficult top 50 if this is implanted, i suggest making the current top 50 into "unupped top 50" and the new top 50 into "upped top 50". The second top 50 will be really difficult but the original top 50 is still possible.