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Theme decks in the bazaar with alternate art as incentive to buy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27669.msg352580#msg352580
« on: June 17, 2011, 04:25:16 am »
So I was thinking that maybe each element should have a purchasable theme deck from the bazaar that would be costed at right above market value (1,050 electrum with the decks ranging from 1,000-1,050 electrum in value)for the cards but also contain an alternate art card as a reason to buy it. Sure it would mean you'd need to purchase a bunch of extras of cards you'd never use but since seemingly the community loves tedious grindfests it wouldn't be an issue, and honestly alternate art is the best way to handle rare-ish things.
The theme decks could include a deck of cards with a bit of in built basic strategy, some deck building and playing tips (written by people in the community), and an alternate art card only attainable through purchasing the theme deck.

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4sa 4sa 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vd 4vd 4vd 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vm 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5up 5ut 5ut 5ut As you can see there is a 1 of Fallen Elf, that 1 of would be the alternate art card. The deck's theme is clearly to control the field while putting on pressure with werewolves, and to also combo the demons with the Fallen Elf. It isn't super strong, but the strategy itself is viable with some tuning up. By having some advanced strategies it is a step in the right direction for new players. The deck would also come with some advice on how to turn the deck into something playable, and as you can see the deck has some quanta issues so it'd also be the perfect deck to include advice on fine tuning a quanta base with too which also would allow players to include advice about that. Hopefully this sort of outreach would help more players get more involved.

TLDR: Affordable theme decks with advanced strategies to help players learn more in depth things about the game while also having alternate art cards as incentive for more advanced players to purchase. Do it.

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Re: Theme decks in the bazaar with alternate art as incentive to buy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27669.msg352766#msg352766
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2011, 04:28:09 pm »
Would these alternate theme decks have their alternate art cards be purchasable via donation as well, like vrt-Chimera?

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Re: Theme decks in the bazaar with alternate art as incentive to buy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27669.msg352780#msg352780
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2011, 05:02:50 pm »
Up the deck cost to :electrum 2500 and give us 2 alt art cards and a rare or something. That way each deck appeals to a wider audience: those that like precons, those that like alt art card A, those that like alt art card B and those that have real trouble finding the rare they need. This also makes the alt art cards more valuable than upped cards if you only want one specific card, without seeming like a rip off for the person who doesn't care (they get a card that can't otherwise be bought to make up for the hefty price tag).

At this cost, I suspect that beginners would still bite if the decks were cool enough as while they could get two upped cards for slightly more, this way they get a full deck.

EDIT: I see no reason not to allow donation for them but what's vrt-chimera?

Also, the rares wouldn't be anything amazing and they could infact be new rares made specifically for their decks so as to keep the current ones special.

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Re: Theme decks in the bazaar with alternate art as incentive to buy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27669.msg352789#msg352789
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2011, 05:26:09 pm »
Up the deck cost to :electrum2500 and give us 2 alt art cards and a rare or something. That way each deck appeals to a wider audience: those that like precons, those that like alt art card A, those that like alt art card B and those that have real trouble finding the rare they need. This also makes the alt art cards more valuable than upped cards if you only want one specific card, without seeming like a rip off for the person who doesn't care (they get a card that can't otherwise be bought to make up for the hefty price tag).

At this cost, I suspect that beginners would still bite if the decks were cool enough as while they could get two upped cards for slightly more, this way they get a full deck.

EDIT: I see no reason not to allow donation for them but what's vrt-chimera?

Also, the rares wouldn't be anything amazing and they could infact be new rares made specifically for their decks so as to keep the current ones special.
One of the things you can get via donation is a Chimera with alternate art by vrt. See the link below:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10898.msg145790#msg145790

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Re: Theme decks in the bazaar with alternate art as incentive to buy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27669.msg352824#msg352824
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2011, 06:23:37 pm »
Up the deck cost to :electrum2500 and give us 2 alt art cards and a rare or something.
The biggest problem with going for a higher cost is that the decks are intended to help new players get into the game (see the bit about the decks coming with deck building and strategy advice). If the price is too steep than it defeats the purpose somewhat.

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Re: Theme decks in the bazaar with alternate art as incentive to buy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27669.msg352836#msg352836
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2011, 06:57:19 pm »
Yes, that could well be an issue. I don't see what the point for someone who doesn't want alt art cards is though.
I wanted to stick in a rare to give it more use but then the cost had to go up...

At the very least it aught to be cheaper than the individual cards though (more expensive than the sellback of course).

EDIT: yeah, just make it cheaper than the total individual buy price and give me a pretty red dragon or phoenix and I'll buy.

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Re: Theme decks in the bazaar with alternate art as incentive to buy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27669.msg352862#msg352862
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2011, 08:21:10 pm »
I just like the idea of alternative art. always a good thing especially if vrt made it.
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Re: Theme decks in the bazaar with alternate art as incentive to buy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27669.msg352940#msg352940
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2011, 11:18:43 pm »
Alt art, hmmm? I suppose that if the deck price is higher then buying each card, just veterans that are swimming on electrum will buy it. And what if someone already has all Lycans, Devourers and Steals he needs, would still buy a deck to get alt art? Dunno.

I think a better idea would be a card pack with some possible alt art cards. Could even have a normal low priced pack with cards from all elements, 3 different packs each with cards from 4 elements, and one really expensive with a good amount of alt arts.

What about:
- Normal pack 8 cards (all elements, no rares): 200 gold
- Special packs: 8 cards (4 elements, low rare chance, like 5%): 400 gold
- Artistic pack: 3 cards (alt arts and 25% of rares): 1000 gold

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Re: Theme decks in the bazaar with alternate art as incentive to buy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27669.msg353257#msg353257
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2011, 05:07:04 pm »
At 1000 electrum for 3, alt arts wouldn't exactly be hard to come by and if 1 in four packs has a rare, that means the average rare isn't all that difficult to obtain either.

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Re: Theme decks in the bazaar with alternate art as incentive to buy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27669.msg353276#msg353276
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2011, 05:36:09 pm »
At 1000 electrum for 3, alt arts wouldn't exactly be hard to come by and if 1 in four packs has a rare, that means the average rare isn't all that difficult to obtain either.
This idea is open to be refined, but I was considering we would have a lot of alt arts. If there are just a few, could be like a 33% chance. Anyway, this is to people that dont have any way to spend their electrum, and so could be a bit more expensive. About rares, lol, its just some appeal, because I dont imagine many people would spend 4000 to get a random rare. Possibly would, if you could choose the one you need, but if its random, its still very difficult to obtain.

 

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