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Skillgannon

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The 500 Score Rare Quest... Is It Enough? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=69.msg646#msg646
« on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:29 pm »

My Idea: Continual Rare Quests
     

        Many people who play this have to grind forever to get the cards they want.  They search for a rare and can spend up to weeks farming lvl 3s or T50 just to get it.  So this makes me wonder why there is only one quest that rewards with a rare.  Now before I propose anything I'll explain why I believe this.

         When you play a game you tend to get attached to it.  If the game is fun you get even more attached.  When you become attached to something you tend to feel pride in it when you, or it, does well.  A game should use this sense of accomplishment to make its dedicated players continue to feel involved with this game.  When a person has something to reach for they tend to continue onwards.  If you make a person work to achieve something they feel all the better when they achieve it.  This is how a game continues to entertain people.  This can come in updates, like new quests, or a new aspect of the game.  By having a continual quest (like the Upgraded cards) you cause a person to strive towards that.

         Here's my proposal: continue the 500 score quest with intervals.  Each time a person reaches that score they should be allowed to receive another rare.  These intervals also allow a person to find out which rare they want.  Each new interval lets the person gain more knowledge and understand where they wish to go with this game.  It also allows a person to get a rare they didn't have, but need, when an update comes up making it more valuable to them.

         I suggest having the following scores grant a rare; 500, 5k, 10k, 25k, 5k, 10k, 25k, 500k, and 1000k.  Now some may ask "why are the intervals so big?"  This is an easy answer: to eliminate the idea of people abusing the game to get a higher score.  Now a person who abuses the game and only strives to get a new score will still have to work to get the rare they want.  In the process they might even get the rare they wanted just from grinding.  I also propose that at the 1 million score mark a person receives a special gift.  Potentially a unique card that a person can only get by reaching that mark.  It will cause people to strive hard to reach that score (helping the game) and have them feel a sense of achievement.  This will especially be true for the first person to reach it.  I know some may propose that at 1 million you just receive one of each rare... but that's not going to be useful that late in the game.  I'd assume anyone who has that high of a score would have at least 6 of each rare, thus the reason for a unique card.

         I think this help keep people entertained with this game and also potentially draw more people in.  The more a person plays the more the people close to them notice.  Friends who didn't play may become interested in the game and start to play.  It just seems like a good way to promote the sight while making the game a little more interesting.

Thank You,
Skillganon



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Questions raised by my suggestion:
What about the hackers who can change their gold or score?  I know all about those players and that's why I suggest not doing this until that issue is fixed.  I'm thinking long-term... not short-term.  If this game ever wants to become established it will have to fix the hacker problem.  Only when that's accomplished do I suggest adding this as an update.  Anytime before would just cause hackers to abuse the 1,000,000 score mark card.  It would be unfair to all of the players who actually try in this game.

JTWood

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The 500 Score Rare Quest... Is It Enough? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=69.msg784#msg784
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:30 pm »

I'd rather just get some money every X points.  Rares are nice, but all quest rares are weapons.  You can only have one in play, so most of the time, you don't need more than 2 or 3 in your deck.  After you get those couple of rares, the real progress is in upgrading.

Kaythal

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The 500 Score Rare Quest... Is It Enough? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=69.msg785#msg785
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:30 pm »

I'd rather just get some money every X points.  Rares are nice, but all quest rares are weapons.  You can only have one in play, so most of the time, you don't need more than 2 or 3 in your deck.  After you get those couple of rares, the real progress is in upgrading.
Flying weapon
In any case, after 500 wins I got 3 rares (+ the one from the quest), and in every deck I'm thinking of, I can put only 1 of em: thus I still miss the "2-3" you're advising.

Kaythal

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The 500 Score Rare Quest... Is It Enough? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=69.msg786#msg786
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:30 pm »

it would be not fair for ppl who already have 2-6 copies of each rares in their deck...(like me)
Atm it's unfair how you got your rares. I played before 1.1 and at that time top50 was a joke even for a noob with no rares (like me). Even without ANY rare I won against many decks packed with rares just due to AI weaknesses. And that with a 1k-coins deck.
Now top50 is really hard for newcomers since of the added "upgraded cards" gap. To have some chances you need (luck and) at least half your deck upgraded: wich means roughly 20k.

Furthermore, why would it be unfair? It's not like we'd take off your rares, we'll give you the ability to fill up those spots with "only" 2 copies each.


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kraze

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The 500 Score Rare Quest... Is It Enough? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=69.msg787#msg787
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:30 pm »

it would be not fair for ppl who already have 2-6 copies of each rares in their deck...(like me)

oaky180

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The 500 Score Rare Quest... Is It Enough? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=69.msg788#msg788
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:30 pm »

I totally agree, I got an arsenic for my first rare, but now i'd really like a trident or a lobo. Im at about 3.5k points so its not far off i suppose.

Osmposm

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The 500 Score Rare Quest... Is It Enough? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=69.msg789#msg789
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:30 pm »

I agree. Sounds fun, gives me more of a reason to play the game.

SamSmart

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The 500 Score Rare Quest... Is It Enough? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=69.msg790#msg790
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:30 pm »

I think that would be a great idea.  I just started this game and was surprised to find that it abruptly ended.

Getting higher scores isn't the only way to make new quests.  You could also make quests designed around certain cards, such as getting 6 copies of the dragon for an individual element could produce some kind of rare.  Maybe you could get a unique if you got a full set of dragon cards for every element.

JTWood

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The 500 Score Rare Quest... Is It Enough? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=69.msg1066#msg1066
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:31 pm »

I'd rather just get some money every X points.  Rares are nice, but all quest rares are weapons.  You can only have one in play, so most of the time, you don't need more than 2 or 3 in your deck.  After you get those couple of rares, the real progress is in upgrading.
Flying weapon
In any case, after 500 wins I got 3 rares (+ the one from the quest), and in every deck I'm thinking of, I can put only 1 of em: thus I still miss the "2-3" you're advising.
You know as well as I do that most combos that generate one creature out of two cards aren't effective.  I know that's a generalization, but it's true way more often than it's not.

As for how many you put in each of your decks, that's up to you to decide how often you want to draw them.  I carry 2 Fahrenheits in my monofire deck.  I prefer the better odds, since I only carry Dragons as my other creatures.  If you're content to only have 1 of your rare, that's great.  My point is that you will almost never more than 2-3 of any rare weapon in any deck, because the odds of you having stale cards in your hand would increase too much with more than that.  Also, 1 is less than 2 or 3.

JTWood

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The 500 Score Rare Quest... Is It Enough? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=69.msg1067#msg1067
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:31 pm »

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you don't need more than 2 or 3 in your deck
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I can put only 1 of em: thus I still miss the "2-3" you're advising.
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1 is less than 2 or 3.

The 500 Score Rare Quest... Is It Enough? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=69.msg1068#msg1068
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:31 pm »

Oh.

Thanks, just wondering.

The 500 Score Rare Quest... Is It Enough? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=69.msg1069#msg1069
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:31 pm »

Also, 1 is less than 2 or 3.
Yes...but what's your point?

 

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