Sundial Suggestion

[czah]

Don't flame if this has already been suggested, I've read around quite a bit and haven't seen many alternatives.
I just started a few weeks ago. But to my understanding,  Sundial used to let you draw 2cards, and it held creatures in statsis for 2turns.  Was this the upgraded version?
Regardless, right now the upgrade for Sundial is instead of 1time, it costs 1more light.  0 to cast, 2 light to use.  That is in no way worth 1500 to upgrade...it's basically a latteral move, not an upgrade, unless you are avoiding using time element.
Anyways, if indeed it was draw 2 cards, and stasis for 2turns....that is a little OP, but the upgrade NOW is meh.  My suggestion is for the Sundial to upgrade to 2stasis or 2draws.  Same cost.  One or the other, but not both.

eh?=)

[xdude]

You know, you don't HAVE TO use it. Holy Flash is meh, but nobody suggested buffing that. Now (almost) everybody wants SD better because they are used to it being OP and now it's not so "XZOMG I HAVE 6 IN ME DECK AND I OWN FG"S@@@@!@$!%#A%$". Trust me, it's better this way.

[czah]

You know, you don't HAVE TO use it. Holy Flash is meh, but nobody suggested buffing that. Now (almost) everybody wants SD better because they are used to it being OP and now it's not so "XZOMG I HAVE 6 IN ME DECK AND I OWN FG"S@@@@!@$!%#A%$". Trust me, it's better this way.

If other cards have useless upgrades, they should be addressed as well.  It's just that HolyFlash is not worth using in most FG farming decks...so it's not as popular.

[xdude]

Well, you're right that

HolyFlash is not worth using in most FG farming decks...so it's not as popular

, but now the SD

is not worth using in most FG farming decks...so it's not as popular.

So, why would the SD be of a higher priority than Holy Flash?

[ivalmian]

Well, you're right that

HolyFlash is not worth using in most FG farming decks...so it's not as popular

, but now the SD

is not worth using in most FG farming decks...so it's not as popular.

So, why would the SD be of a higher priority than Holy Flash?

Sundials are STILL useful cards, and are STILL used in FG grinders.. I think they are OK like they are. Upped sundials are often times useful for making the quanta use more balanced since light is an underused quanta in rainbows.

[IStoneI]

upping sundials is almost not worth it, as it seems now. since the cost was only 1  before the upgrade anyway, upping them doesnt make that much of a difference. you may have better use in certain mono decks with them, but only of they are heavy on 

i would suggest, changing the cost of the upgraded card to 1 random quanta (to keep the versatility) and keeping the 1  cost for the card draw.

[pikachufan2164]

upping sundials is almost not worth it, as it seems now. since the cost was only 1  before the upgrade anyway, upping them doesnt make that much of a difference. you may have better use in certain mono decks with them, but only of they are heavy on 

i would suggest, changing the cost of the upgraded card to 1 random quanta and keeping the 1  cost for the card draw.

I beg to differ -- upgraded Sundials eases the load on quanta for Time mark Rainbows that don't use a Miracle. That extra you save can be used to draw another card with an Hourglass in the early game.

[IStoneI]

upping sundials is almost not worth it, as it seems now. since the cost was only 1  before the upgrade anyway, upping them doesnt make that much of a difference. you may have better use in certain mono decks with them, but only of they are heavy on 

i would suggest, changing the cost of the upgraded card to 1 random quanta and keeping the 1  cost for the card draw.

I beg to differ -- upgraded Sundials eases the load on quanta for Time mark Rainbows that don't use a Miracle. That extra you save can be used to draw another card with an Hourglass in the early game.

maybe, but making the cost 1 random quanta wouldndt change that.  personally, i find the extra card draw much to important, to upgrade the card. it can be a life saver at the beginning of your game, when  is hard to come by and you cant play an hourglass yet, because you dont have the  or because you didnt draw one. in that case the extra draw increases the chance to get an hourglass early.

much of the upped false god decks or rainbow decks in any case, that ive seen on the forums have every card upgraded, but the sundial. as far as i undersand, it seems to be the only card, that isnt always more useful when upgraded.