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SoSac singularity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41342.msg512287#msg512287
« on: June 18, 2012, 02:27:35 am »
I was trying to do something like this
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The idea (was) create a good amount of singularities and block them to attack( aswell your opponent) with sundials, until most of them gain the vampire ability.
Then play SoSac wich should be switch damage with healing of course, result, you should receive healing for antimattered vampire creatures, saving you from the death while they keep on multiply and then perform a OTK with chimera.
That was the idea, in concrete it doesen't happens 'cause singularity antimatter itself when you use SoSac  :( isn't it too much?
Many of you will say that is too occasional to be changed but also a deck based on this will be that occasional, even more, so i think it's pretty a balanced decision...
So why don't change at least one of the super disastrous powers that singularity has?
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Re: SoSac singularity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41342.msg512289#msg512289
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2012, 02:33:06 am »
I was trying to do something like this
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The idea (was) create a good amount of singularities and block them to attack( aswell your opponent) with sundials, until most of them gain the vampire ability.
Then play SoSac wich should be switch damage with healing of course, result, you should receive healing for antimattered vampire creatures, saving you from the death while they keep on multiply and then perform a OTK with chimera.
That was the idea, in concrete it doesen't happens 'cause singularity antimatter itself when you use SoSac  :( isn't it too much?
Many of you will say that is too occasional to be changed but also a deck based on this will be that occasional, even more, so i think it's pretty a balanced decision...
So why don't change at least one of the super disastrous powers that singularity has?
A few SoP to soften the power of the Sings?

Oh, and someone put this onto the deck help subforum.
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Re: SoSac singularity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41342.msg512290#msg512290
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2012, 02:35:27 am »
Oh, and someone put this onto the deck help subforum.
This has nothing to do with wanting help on his deck.  He's suggesting that Singularities shouldn't Antimatter themselves while SoSa is active.
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Re: SoSac singularity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41342.msg512291#msg512291
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2012, 02:37:04 am »
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I was trying to do something like this
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The idea (was) create a good amount of singularities and block them to attack( aswell your opponent) with sundials, until most of them gain the vampire ability.
Then play SoSac wich should be switch damage with healing of course, result, you should receive healing for antimattered vampire creatures, saving you from the death while they keep on multiply and then perform a OTK with chimera.
That was the idea, in concrete it doesen't happens 'cause singularity antimatter itself when you use SoSac  :( isn't it too much?
Many of you will say that is too occasional to be changed but also a deck based on this will be that occasional, even more, so i think it's pretty a balanced decision...
So why don't change at least one of the super disastrous powers that singularity has?
[/spoiler]A few SoP to soften the power of the Sings?

Oh, and someone put this onto the deck help subforum.
This thread is for a game discussion of an abilty of singularity.
P.S. the deck won't work cause of that so it's unusefull to post it in the deck help(for now)...
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Re: SoSac singularity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41342.msg512292#msg512292
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2012, 02:38:38 am »
In forum bugs? Shouldn't this be in game bugs and suggestions? Anyway, singularities do this since when singularity was in trainer, someone made a very powerful FG killer using this strategy. Can't find the thread right now, but Zanz saw it and changed it so it antimatters itself when you're under sosac.

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Re: SoSac singularity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41342.msg512295#msg512295
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2012, 02:44:28 am »
In forum bugs? Shouldn't this be in game bugs and suggestions? Anyway, singularities do this since when singularity was in trainer, someone made a very powerful FG killer using this strategy. Can't find the thread right now, but Zanz saw it and changed it so it antimatters itself when you're under sosac.
Yep, i only test it in the trainer vs AI3 , i also thinked that it can easily became too strong(immune powerfull adrenaline vampired creatures with SoSac are that much annoying), but as you can see i've never have the chance to try it, so if you tell me zanz said it is OP after someone test it without the nerf i take it as good and ty for the clarification;).
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Re: SoSac singularity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41342.msg512349#msg512349
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2012, 05:35:36 am »
I love the concept and wish it was still viable.

2 ways to make it work without being gamebreaking:

Singularities only have a 50% chance to antimatter themselves.

Sop blocks newly created singularities(and malignant cells)(oh, and skellies too) from attacking.

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Re: SoSac singularity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41342.msg512352#msg512352
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2012, 05:40:18 am »
Sop blocks newly created singularities(and malignant cells)(oh, and skellies too) from attacking.
Yup. I proposed that idea of using SoPs to stall while your singularities built themselves up for an OTK. I can't find the thread though. I think mathematistic of someone made it.

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Re: SoSac singularity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41342.msg512356#msg512356
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2012, 06:02:50 am »
Zhangvict made that crazy powerful FG deck: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,37258.0.html
It had like a 100% win rate, so Zanz changed it. 

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Re: SoSac singularity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41342.msg512363#msg512363
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2012, 06:13:30 am »
Zhangvict made that crazy powerful FG deck: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,37258.0.html
It had like a 100% win rate, so Zanz changed it.
That's the thread I was looking for.

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Re: SoSac singularity https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41342.msg512468#msg512468
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2012, 01:31:40 pm »
I can see sosac being op with singularity, however, would the changes i suggested make it op again, or merely possible, but inefficient?

Zhangvict made that crazy powerful FG deck: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,37258.0.html
It had like a 100% win rate, so Zanz changed it. 

I have read that thread. I really would like to see this combo (singularity+chimera+antimatter) buffed enough to make it usable again

 

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