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Remove gold cost of matches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29718.msg377965#msg377965
« on: August 09, 2011, 02:44:55 pm »
This game would be far better without the match fee.

All it serves to do is make the game less fun by forcing you to play against lower ranking AI if you get to low gold.

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Re: Remove gold cost of matches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29718.msg378042#msg378042
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2011, 05:07:58 pm »
It also serves to prevent newer players from charging recklessly into battles they may not be used to yet. Also, you only lose the money if you lose the match.

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Re: Remove gold cost of matches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29718.msg378049#msg378049
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2011, 05:18:05 pm »
you will not learn how to build decks if you cant built easy decks for beat lesser levels than you (

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Re: Remove gold cost of matches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29718.msg378239#msg378239
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2011, 12:05:52 am »
I always keep an electrum reserve.  For example, don't upgrade a card when you have 1501 electrum, wait until like 1700, just in case.  Try not to ever drop below 150-200 in case you have a bad streak.

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Re: Remove gold cost of matches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29718.msg378358#msg378358
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2011, 05:15:31 am »
It also serves to prevent newer players from charging recklessly into battles they may not be used to yet. Also, you only lose the money if you lose the match.
What is wrong with charging recklessly into battle?

you will not learn how to build decks if you cant built easy decks for beat lesser levels than you (
Why would you not learn? If you have more spare gold you can try out more deck builds more quickly.

I always keep an electrum reserve.  For example, don't upgrade a card when you have 1501 electrum, wait until like 1700, just in case.  Try not to ever drop below 150-200 in case you have a bad streak.
Sure, you can do this, but it is simply a matter of avoiding inconvenience. It does not add any fun to the game.

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Re: Remove gold cost of matches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29718.msg378366#msg378366
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2011, 05:38:44 am »
I hate the  :electrum requirement for matches...
Its a necessary evil though. Otherwise, farming would be way too easy. Why keep with a match that was free if you think you will lose based just on the opponent. This keeps people from starting a game, then quitting immediately if the matchup is bad. I would farm FG's with a specialized unupped deck if there wasnt a quest fee. Then I would just quit all but one or 2 that my deck is good against.
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Re: Remove gold cost of matches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29718.msg378369#msg378369
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2011, 05:41:03 am »
I hate the  :electrum requirement for matches...
Its a necessary evil though. Otherwise, farming would be way too easy. Why keep with a match that was free if you think you will lose based just on the opponent. This keeps people from starting a game, then quitting immediately if the matchup is bad. I would farm FG's with a specialized unupped deck if there wasnt a quest fee. Then I would just quit all but one or 2 that my deck is good against.
It still costs time, if you want to try FG with unupped deck, you will be investing either a lot of time or some decent knowledge. Either way you would eventually deserve that win. The :electrum is not necessary.

You would probably earn gold faster farming lvl 3 AI than just trying to bang your head on the FG with a low deck, even if  :electrum was not required to try.

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Re: Remove gold cost of matches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29718.msg378373#msg378373
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2011, 05:46:31 am »
In the end though, the fee is something you want. Not many players have too little gold to play an Ai3 or Arena... and if you do, maybe you should stick to Ai1s until you can actually conserve some of your money. The fees aren't much, and if you lose the match you're not gonna be like "Damn, there goes my 15 :electrum ", you'll just play again.
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Re: Remove gold cost of matches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29718.msg378376#msg378376
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2011, 05:49:24 am »
maybe you should stick to Ai1s until you can actually conserve some of your money.
Why should you ever be forced to play Ai1s? It is simply more grinding. Can you explain how it is fun to have to occasionally take on an Ai1?

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Re: Remove gold cost of matches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29718.msg378404#msg378404
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2011, 08:01:32 am »
Why would you ever spend your last 24 electrum in PvP1? If you get under 24, just grind AI3 for a while to bring it back up. And it is a necessary evil. The only thing limiting the number of people with bad decks in PvP1 is the cost to play. If there was no cost, it would be THE place grind when you're low on money. Why should that place be PvP instead of AI1?

Also, if FGs were free, then it would be way to easy to get money. You don't "deserve" to win through knowledge and a bad deck, and AI3 would definitely not be faster than auto-quitting FGs. Actually, auto-quitting with a deck that can beat 1/2 of the FGs at least 70% of the time already gives more electrum than farming AI3.

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Re: Remove gold cost of matches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29718.msg378426#msg378426
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2011, 08:53:01 am »
you will not learn how to build decks if you cant built easy decks for beat lesser levels than you (
Why would you not learn? If you have more spare gold you can try out more deck builds more quickly.

use trainer for that :)
http://elementsthegame.com/trainer

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Re: Remove gold cost of matches https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29718.msg378533#msg378533
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2011, 02:17:33 pm »
It still costs time, if you want to try FG with unupped deck, you will be investing either a lot of time or some decent knowledge. Either way you would eventually deserve that win. The :electrum is not necessary.

You would probably earn gold faster farming lvl 3 AI than just trying to bang your head on the FG with a low deck, even if  :electrum was not required to try.
It wont cost much time though...  not nearly as much as 30 :electrum
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