PvP Lobbies

[Jyiber]

A manuel PvP system with rooms created by players (as seen in other games with lot's of PvP). You enter PvP and search from a list of games created by players. Same principle as before, but gives players options.

Reasoning behind why this might be better:

1) Adds social aspects to PvP by making it so you can find players you know or like.

2) Gives a platform to build customizable PvP options on.

3) Like other games, there could be some form of pre-game chat lobby. Here the player and spectators could talk.

As a side note, some players will still want a simple "place me in a random PvP1" and "place me in a random PvP2" options available for faster matchmaking. But I think over all, many more players will be happy to have this system.

Does anyone agree? Disagree?

[rob77dp]

A manuel PvP system with rooms created by players (as seen in other games with lot's of PvP). You enter PvP and search from a list of games created by players. Same principle as before, but gives players options.

Reasoning behind why this might be better:

1) Adds social aspects to PvP by making it so you can find players you know or like.

2) Gives a platform to build customizable PvP options on.

3) Like other games, there could be some form of pre-game chat lobby. Here the player and spectators could talk.

As a side note, some players will still want a simple "place me in a random PvP1" and "place me in a random PvP2" options available for faster matchmaking. But I think over all, many more players will be happy to have this system.

Does anyone agree? Disagree?

Yeah!  Almost like a chat you can enter with a link or button from the game site/page.  You find a player there, exchange in-game names, and type it in for the server to match you as opponents.

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Wait, we have that, Jyi! 

(I think your point may be more "beef up the PvP Duel feature", but really the game mostly has what you've described already)

[bripod]

I'm not sure about implementing this for PvP1 & 2 as it could be exploited.  PvP Duel match-ups can easily be handled through the main chat site...

[dawn to dusk]

I had an idea a couple months ago where in PvP duel, one could type the ign of 1 player and it would come up with something on the other person's screen saying 'dawn to dusk is challenging you to a duel. Accept, Deny'. This was an example but would make the search a lot easier as only 1 person would have to search the name. I also had an idea regarding this while one was already in a match but I have forgotten this right now.

[dragonsdemesne]

dawn to dusk: That's a good idea in theory, but I've seen problems with it in other games where dickwads will spam you with invites just to piss you off, or, even worse in some games, the invite spam will actually get in the way of the game (covering stuff up, etc) and so some people would do it just to screw you up.  I remember one online chess site that this was notoriously bad on; people would spam draw offers when they were losing, but you were short on time, and then there would be all this crap on the board in your way slowing you down in the last few seconds.

[dawn to dusk]

I was thinking of something more... Troll resistant. There would only be 1 request shown at a time and it would be located in a rectangle  at the top of the screen. But positioned so it wouldn't effect any existing buttons. And then I got thinking that those same dickwads would just spam to prevent anyone else from requesting so maybe have something that means you can block a certain person to prevent spam. And you could unblock them by typing there name into duel and searching for them.

[Jyiber]

Yeah!  Almost like a chat you can enter with a link or button from the game site/page.  You find a player there, exchange in-game names, and type it in for the server to match you as opponents.

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Wait, we have that, Jyi! 

(I think your point may be more "beef up the PvP Duel feature", but really the game mostly has what you've described already)

Yeah I meant as more of a PvP options thing, but I'm really also still pushing for better in-game interactions. I'm not happy with the current chat system even remotely, and a link at the bottom of the page is less than ideal.

The scenario I was suggesting would have played out more like:

Player logs in and the the 3 pvp options have been replaced with 1, you enter it and there's a list of active games and people waiting for matches, you choose one person that you've met before and enjoyed dueling and enter their lobby and see what options they have on their game.

But it went completely over my head that the system would have exploitable flaws in a card game with rares. People could just become farms for other people and other such problems. This idea is not without need of review...

[Zignaught]

If you are doing it this style people can make bets based on the person they play. That way you can still have a PVP game with someone you know without losing any coin, visa versa you can play somebody you know for a much higher coin payout.

[Chapuz]

Maybe it would be more efficient and easy to do a chat tab/window used as PvP lobby

[andretimpa]

If you are doing it this style people can make bets based on the person they play. That way you can still have a PVP game with someone you know without losing any coin, visa versa you can play somebody you know for a much higher coin payout.

Playing without losing coins is what already happens in PvP Duel. Adding bets to increase a reward when you can control who you face is very easy to abuse (note that you can create a second account and normally the electrum amount that goes to the winner is more than what the loser loses).

[Zignaught]

Playing without losing coins is what already happens in PvP Duel. Adding bets to increase a reward when you can control who you face is very easy to abuse (note that you can create a second account and normally the electrum amount that goes to the winner is more than what the loser loses).

Yes, but the system now is easily abused. Take a deck, go farm, mess up your score, go hit pvp and even though it's random your score multiplier and electrum pay out are far greater. I've had days where I've pvp'd the same guy multiple times in a row at random. His score was multiples below mine, so my reprimand for losing was also greater. Even though his deck was far better. After hitting this guy 5 times in a row, I stopped for the day. Every system has abuse issues that need to be worked around. One solution could be minimum buy in. You need X to buy into a game where  is the minimum bet. And you can't bet above Y . This could also work to be a members only feature. All just ideas, of course.

[andretimpa]

Playing without losing coins is what already happens in PvP Duel. Adding bets to increase a reward when you can control who you face is very easy to abuse (note that you can create a second account and normally the electrum amount that goes to the winner is more than what the loser loses).

Yes, but the system now is easily abused. Take a deck, go farm, mess up your score, go hit pvp and even though it's random your score multiplier and electrum pay out are far greater. I've had days where I've pvp'd the same guy multiple times in a row at random. His score was multiples below mine, so my reprimand for losing was also greater. Even though his deck was far better. After hitting this guy 5 times in a row, I stopped for the day. Every system has abuse issues that need to be worked around. One solution could be minimum buy in. You need X to buy into a game where  is the minimum bet. And you can't bet above Y . This could also work to be a members only feature. All just ideas, of course.

I think that if you beat someone with more score than you, you get more electrum than the other way around (or was it score gain? I don't remember). Everyone pays the same amount to enter the game though.