Putting a Score Threshold on PvP 2

[xdude]

There's a difference between fighting a player with 20 score while you have 5 upped cards in your deck and still have a 6k score and fighting a player with 20 score while you have 200 upped cards in your deck. With a fully upgraded deck, the chance of losing is a LOT lower than my chance of losing.

You really didn't get the analogy, did you? If you lose vs a 20 score player and I lose vs a 6k score player we both get the same penalties. So, if I were to be your twin with a better account, I could have a problem with you being there. Does that sound fair for you? Or maybe, we should create 61 pvps. For no upped cards, for 1 upped card, for 2 upped cards...

BTW, 200 upped cards in your deck? lol, not even a 20 score player would say that.

I thought I told you to leave -.-

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[Jumbalumba]

You know, if you care about not losing or gaining little score, you should just fix your ability to play Top50. It's a lot simpler than trying to think up, suggest, and get an(other) arbitrary line of dividing people implemented.

[bojengles77]

BTW, 200 upped cards in your deck? lol, not even a 20 score player would say that.

No its true! I see'd it with mine own eyez!

[didonko]

Jeez, PvP1 - non-upgraded only.
PvP2 - NO restrictions.
Learn to read.
And if you are with a fully upgraded graboid rush deck and lose against non-upped graboid rush, then... well... hit that reset button.

[b00mc1ap]

Jeez, PvP1 - non-upgraded only.
PvP2 - NO restrictions.
Learn to read.
And if you are with a fully upgraded graboid rush deck and lose against non-upped graboid rush, then... well... hit that reset button.

Exactly why I made this thread... And if you read my other comments you'd see that I do NOT have a fully upgraded deck.

There's a difference between fighting a player with 20 score while you have 5 upped cards in your deck and still have a 6k score and fighting a player with 20 score while you have 200 upped cards in your deck. With a fully upgraded deck, the chance of losing is a LOT lower than my chance of losing.

You really didn't get the analogy, did you? If you lose vs a 20 score player and I lose vs a 6k score player we both get the same penalties. So, if I were to be your twin with a better account, I could have a problem with you being there. Does that sound fair for you? Or maybe, we should create 61 pvps. For no upped cards, for 1 upped card, for 2 upped cards...

BTW, 200 upped cards in your deck? lol, not even a 20 score player would say that.

And you're telling me I didn't get an analogy? I wasn't talking about the amount of score you lose, I was talking about the chance of losing. Learn to read:

With a fully upgraded deck, the chance of losing is a LOT lower than my chance of losing.

Whatever...

[bojengles77]

Look, boomclap, you're being a complete hypocrite here. You THINK you're right because you're a big bad cat at 6k score. You think that having 4 upgraded cards separates you from the noobs and you have a right to be above them. Having a deck with 4 upgraded cards and one with 0 upgraded cards is a very slight difference, the biggest determinant of who wins is who can build a better deck and who is the better player. If you're losing to "noobs", it's not because they're lucky every time, its because they built a better, more reliable deck and chances are that your bad hands are due to poor deckbuilding. Stop putting yourself above lower players, you don't see any t50 players complaining that there's not a TOP50 ONLY playlist where zomg high scorez can play each other. If you have a problem with kids with no upgrades in pvp2, go play in pvp1 or against the AI. or pvp duel for that matter. There, crisis averted.

[b00mc1ap]

First off, nowhere did I say that I'm awesome because I have 6k score... I know it's not a lot and I'm not saying I'm better than everyone because I have that much score. The only thing I'm saying is that, if one does not have an upgraded deck, there is a higher chance of getting unlucky on the first draw against low score players.

When I got to around 3k score I was noticing how PvP1 didn't do me any good because playing at a 4:1 win ratio would just keep me at the same score. Therefore, in my attempt to get a higher score, I went to PvP2, expecting medium score people, like me, which I found. However, I also noticed more and more people with 20ish score also going to PvP2 and getting lucky, as stated above, 1 out of 4 times.

I'm not being cocky, I'm not trying to say I'm awesome, I just want to be able to get points at a decent rate.

[Chronospawn]

I want to play in PVP2 now.... with un-upped decks... and rank masking!

I demand rank masking!

If i D|ck around in PVP2 with an un-upped deck and win, then it's just progress...
But if I do the same with a half/half deck, I want some programming to hold my hand and save me.

Save me please from having to put in the same amount of effort others put in to make certain decks are PVP2 ready!!
Yeah - I sold most of my un-upped cards to improved others... but that's the game's fault... not mine!!

Err... (ponders when to remove sarcasm tags... nah - let's keep them)

It just looks bad when someone who knows how to play and/or reads help forums creates an un-upped deck and wipes me in PVP2.

How about a PVP1.5 - half-assed PVP.

You could even add a PVP0.5 for new players or those with a very low rank.
To even play in this bracket, you must accept you are using your tongue to move cursor; have extreme mental deficiencies; like Britney Spears/Justin Bieber.

*-*Ponders concepts for PVP 3 or PVP3.5*-*

[b00mc1ap]

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Wow Chronospawn! Thank you SO much for your input. That just filled the gap and completely made me understand what you guys' reasoning is! Thank you!

[PuppyChow]

Here's what we're saying:

Person AWESOME has 1000k score.
Person A has 100k score.
Person B has 10k score.
Person C has 1k score.

When person B loses to person C, he loses 100 score.
When person A loses to person B, he loses 100 score.
When person AWESOME loses to person A, he loses 100 score.

Person B wants to keep person C out of pvp 2 because he doesn't want to lose score.
Person A wants to keep person B out of pvp 2 because he doesn't want to lose score.
Person AWESOME doesn't want to keep anybody out of pvp 2 and just decides not to lose to people worse than him.

Now, who is right?
Person B? <- Your stance
Person A? <- The stance everyone else is taking to show why your idea is bad
Person AWESOME? <- The correct stance

You can't just draw a line in the sand and say "you can't play on this side of the sandbox because you aren't old enough", because then what if someone older than you comes along and draws a line right next to it saying "neither can you, because you aren't old enough either".

[bojengles77]

I'm not being cocky, I'm not trying to say I'm awesome, I just want to be able to get points at a decent rate.

Then you're looking in the wrong place. try AI3, or t50. They're easier, faster, and more efficient.

[xdude]

Here's what we're saying:

Person AWESOME has 1000k score.
Person A has 100k score.
Person B has 10k score.
Person C has 1k score.

When person B loses to person C, he loses 100 score.
When person A loses to person B, he loses 100 score.
When person AWESOME loses to person A, he loses 100 score.

Person B wants to keep person C out of pvp 2 because he doesn't want to lose score.
Person A wants to keep person B out of pvp 2 because he doesn't want to lose score.
Person AWESOME doesn't want to keep anybody out of pvp 2 and just decides not to lose to people worse than him.

Now, who is right?
Person B? <- Your stance
Person A? <- The stance everyone else is taking to show why your idea is bad
Person AWESOME? <- The correct stance

You can't just draw a line in the sand and say "you can't play on this side of the sandbox because you aren't old enough", because then what if someone older than you comes along and draws a line right next to it saying "neither can you, because you aren't old enough either".

I never said I wanted people with less than 60037 score should not be able to play PvP 2. I only said, IF that would happen, how would YOU (boomcap) like it?