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Re: Purify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7171.msg77576#msg77576
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2010, 09:04:18 pm »
Purify merely requires a mark and can make any creature an instant vampire.
1) With a possible buff to Purify, its cost would most certainly be reconsidered to stay balanced.
2) Purify does not make any creature an instant vampire. Creature card + Liquid shadow card + Purify card make a vampire. Thats instant?
1) What exactly did you have in mind?  If Purify changes its ability to cure the target creature rather then the Elemental, it might as well be an entirely new card.

2) That was more for dramatic effect, of course.   8)
1) What I said is this: if direct buff is applied to the card, it is very likely that its COST would be revisited. No idea where did you read it should not heal poison from "Elemental". Entirely new card that cures creatures from poison is also an option, why not.

2) My point exactly is that proposed change wouldnt be game breaking at all. You're just overreacting.

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Re: Purify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7171.msg77584#msg77584
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2010, 09:10:53 pm »
Purify merely requires a mark and can make any creature an instant vampire.
1) With a possible buff to Purify, its cost would most certainly be reconsidered to stay balanced.
2) Purify does not make any creature an instant vampire. Creature card + Liquid shadow card + Purify card make a vampire. Thats instant?
1) What exactly did you have in mind?  If Purify changes its ability to cure the target creature rather then the Elemental, it might as well be an entirely new card.

2) That was more for dramatic effect, of course.   8)
1) What I said is this: if direct buff is applied to the card, it is very likely that its COST would be revisited. No idea where did you read it should not heal poison from "Elemental". Entirely new card that cures creatures from poison is also an option, why not.

2) My point exactly is that proposed change wouldnt be game breaking at all. You're just overreacting.
If this change you propose is made, Purify will be the only card that can target a creature and have a universal effect.

If Purify is changed, I would prefer something like this:

Purify - 8 :water
  - Cure all poison counters in game.

While I would still disapprove of it, a high cost would balance it quite a bit.
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Re: Purify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7171.msg77599#msg77599
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2010, 09:27:22 pm »
If this change you propose is made, Purify will be the only card that can target a creature and have a universal effect.

If Purify is changed, I would prefer something like this:

Purify - 8 :water
  - Cure all poison counters in game.

While I would still disapprove of it, a high cost would balance it quite a bit.
Its not something I propose, its something original poster proposed. I personally dont care how its done, I just want a card that cures poison from creatures. For some reason, you dont want such card, and find curing creatures OP.
So, without further derailing this thread, I'll just say that poison on creatures is not very hard to apply and reapply, and its not extremely strong/powerful move anyway. I dont see how a counter to it would be oh so overpowered. I also dont find 3 card combo just to make one creature vamp overpowered, there are plenty of other straightforward ways to regain health anyway.

But everyone is entitled to an opinion, so I'll just leave it be.

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Re: Purify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7171.msg77619#msg77619
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2010, 09:50:43 pm »
I also personally dont care how its done. I just want and believe there should be a card that can remove poison status from creatures. And it definitely would not be OP. Remember that just because poison was removed once, it does not mean that the creature cannot be poisoned again.
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Re: Purify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7171.msg77634#msg77634
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2010, 10:15:15 pm »
You could keep the cost for upgraded and unupgraded purify as  :water, however have the upgraded cards ability to remove from creatures.  That would make is less spammable than any random quanta.

Re: Purify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7171.msg77635#msg77635
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2010, 10:16:47 pm »
You could keep the cost for upgraded and unupgraded purify as  :water, however have the upgraded cards ability to remove from creatures.  That would make is less spammable than any random quanta.
that is a good solution. i'll think more about it tomorow, time to go to bed.  :-[

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Re: Purify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7171.msg77694#msg77694
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2010, 11:12:56 pm »
the 3 cards to make 1 vamp combo is NOT OP, because 3 Vamps would be better. Discussion ended :P
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Re: Purify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7171.msg77723#msg77723
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2010, 11:57:23 pm »
I think buffing Purify and removing poison from creatures should be two different topics.

Regarding buffing Purify, I would propose the following change:  Remove the poison status from yourself and gain 1 HP for each water creature in play.  This would make it less situational.

As far as creature health, I think angels, devour skill, growth skill, reverse time, blessings, plate armor, and chaos power are good enough for now.

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Re: Purify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7171.msg77755#msg77755
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2010, 12:29:14 am »
the 3 cards to make 1 vamp combo is NOT OP, because 3 Vamps would be better. Discussion ended :P
Mmmm... you're probably right here. This would allow you to just splash Darkness and make Vampires though which would be a nice little addition i think. Making purify cost 8 quanta would be silly though and ensure that this card is never used.

And the suggestion by xdawnbydeath IMO is not very good either. He suggested the upped card to take away a creatures ability. It would then make purify a dual affect card that allows you to lobotomize which really makes no sense(unless of course you can only use it on poisoned creatures).


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Re: Purify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7171.msg77762#msg77762
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2010, 12:40:04 am »
I never said it took away anything.  I meant it takes away the poison counters.  When I said remove from creatures, i meant the poison.

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Re: Purify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7171.msg77975#msg77975
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2010, 08:23:15 am »
I never said it took away anything.  I meant it takes away the poison counters.  When I said remove from creatures, i meant the poison.
Ahhh.. reading comprehension down... sorry  :-X.  Reread it sloooowwlly this time.

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Re: Purify https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7171.msg78067#msg78067
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2010, 01:15:49 pm »
Thats perfectly fine.  As it is, purify is probably the least used card in the game.  As such, I wouldn't have a problem if it was changed somehow.

 

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