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Pulverizer and Frozen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37468.msg470769#msg470769
« on: March 14, 2012, 01:24:28 pm »
What if pulverizer could break frozen?  If a creature was frozen you just use pulverizer on it and it is unfrozen.

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Re: Pulverizer and Frozen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37468.msg470908#msg470908
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 10:58:15 pm »
I don't think being smashed with a hammer while being enclosed in ice is very good for your health.

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Re: Pulverizer and Frozen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37468.msg470929#msg470929
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2012, 11:35:00 pm »
I think it´s not a good idea to buff the powerful card Pulverizer and nerf Freeze introducing "Anti-Freeze".
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Re: Pulverizer and Frozen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37468.msg470935#msg470935
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2012, 11:46:14 pm »
Quintessence breaks frozen, if you didn't know.  You could also perhaps try your hand at creating a card with some sort of unfreeze mechanic and submitting it to the card ideas forum.

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Re: Pulverizer and Frozen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37468.msg470949#msg470949
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2012, 01:23:42 am »
I know, that Quintessence breaks Freeze, but´s not really Anti-Freeze on a stick
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Re: Pulverizer and Frozen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37468.msg470950#msg470950
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2012, 01:28:37 am »
Making only anti-freeze would be too situational. Adding anti-freeze to pulverizer would make it too powerful.

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Re: Pulverizer and Frozen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37468.msg470952#msg470952
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2012, 01:32:29 am »
wouldnt it make thematic sense for it to work more like shockwave? hitting a frozen creature with pulverizor smashes the ice and kills it instantly.

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Re: Pulverizer and Frozen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37468.msg470954#msg470954
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2012, 01:41:09 am »
wouldnt it make thematic sense for it to work more like shockwave? hitting a frozen creature with pulverizor smashes the ice and kills it instantly.
Agreed, and I support not buffing Pulvy as well.
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Re: Pulverizer and Frozen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37468.msg470956#msg470956
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2012, 01:58:15 am »
wouldnt it make thematic sense for it to work more like shockwave? hitting a frozen creature with pulverizor smashes the ice and kills it instantly.
Yes I thought the exact same when I first read this. 

But regardless, if a Pulverizer only has the power to destroy permanents in normal circumstances I don't see how freezing a creature would suddenly grant it the power to add them to its target list unless we're assuming Pulverizer only has the ability to destroy items which are stationary (in which case we can probably also make the case that several permanents are in motion).  Dunno...any way I look at it the suggested change doesn't make much sense to me thematically or mechanically.
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Re: Pulverizer and Frozen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37468.msg470957#msg470957
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2012, 02:03:48 am »
If you want a pulverizer to smash frozen creatures, why can't a hammer do it as well? Why can't you just stab your opponent's creatures with your dagger? While it does make a bit of thematic sense, this is probably an example of gameplay and story (is there even a story) segregation and acceptable breaks from reality.

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Re: Pulverizer and Frozen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37468.msg470960#msg470960
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2012, 02:19:18 am »
If you want a pulverizer to smash frozen creatures, why can't a hammer do it as well? Why can't you just stab your opponent's creatures with your dagger? While it does make a bit of thematic sense, this is probably an example of gameplay and story (is there even a story) segregation and acceptable breaks from reality.
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Anyway, true that Pulvy is already quite powerful. And this bit would be too situational anyway.
Freeze is one of the few massive creature stoppers (flying Titan, Armagio) with the others being RT and mutation, and also one of the underused for this purpose. Making a freeze-breaker would make it UP.
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Re: Pulverizer and Frozen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37468.msg472621#msg472621
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2012, 02:05:03 pm »
Quintessence breaks frozen, if you didn't know.
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