patch 1.26 AI5 upgraded cards

[Ekki]

Well, about the poll, could you make it so we can vote twice? Or at least try to make each option exclude the others.

[wizelsnarf]

The issue is more about the jump between ai3, ai5 and false gods. All of those jumps are quite frustrating.

Tier 4 opponents are really quite difficult in themselves as all t50 players have completely upped decks they can choose to use.

We have discussed this plenty in the past and there were plenty of ways to fix it. There are definitely other better, more complicated and or more interesting ways to solve the problem.


Listen, once you start playing false gods you are going to love the new buff to AI5 - It gives you a reason to play them and not False Gods only. I don't think I touched the AI5 button for MONTHS until this update because it was such a boring waste of time.


I don't think this is the best thing that could have happened, but I think I speak for most of us when I say I will take what I can get.

[zse]

You forgot to add AI5 Needs more Buff for this poll.

Before 1.26 AI5 (HB) was stupidly easy with long game-times. The problem was that winning HB weren't rewarded enough. If you have now get higher change to win upped cards, it might actually become worth playing = grinding for .

PS. If you can't win HB, then play against AI3 or use better deck.

[catalyzeme]

You forgot to add AI5 Needs more Buff for this poll.

I agree completely. I wouldn't mind AI5 being up to 50% upgraded. Right now, when playing AI5s, the strategy seems to be either using a very simple strategy (like a fire stall), or use a FG deck that you just haven't finished upgrading yet. I would love to see AI5s get even tougher (even at 50% they would be much easier than FGs) so that one could actually make a deck specifically aimed at AI5, upgrade it fully, and have success winning upgraded cards. The 200 HP thing is the important factor with AI5. Games take too long for it to make any sense to grind them for the victory electrum. But at the same time, winning upgraded cards from them is so difficult. I would love to see a higher % upgraded so that they would be viable for grinding. Something like 1 upgraded card per hour (on average) of grinding with a fully-upgraded, optimized deck for AI5 would be less electrum than a good FG deck, but you would get more wins and probably more score.

Right now, AI3, T50, and FGs are all viable grinding options. It doesn't make much sense that AI5 really isn't. I don't mind gradually escalating though. If this buff turns out to be enough, then great! If people are still complaining about how worthless AI5s are 6-12 months from now, I'd love to see another buff. I think this is a great example of zanz listening to the community and changing the game in ways that make sense.

[Ekki]

You also forgot to add the option AI5's upped cards should be of the same type, so you have more chances to get an upped from the spins (it's better for the spins having 6 novas and 6 Lava destroyers than 3 novas, 3 supernovas, 3 lava golems and 3 lava destroyers), and you don't need to increase the amount of upped cards, as to make it Noob-Friendly.

[LongDono]

What are the current odds of winning an upped card from AI5? ( sorry if it was said but I missed it. )
The old odds were something like 1% right?

[chb369]

What are the current odds of winning an upped card from AI5? ( sorry if it was said but I missed it. )
The old odds were something like 1% right?

Yeah, I've heard it was 1.5% somewhere.

You also forgot to add the option AI5's upped cards should be of the same type

Oh yeah, I forgot that. Am I able to change the poll without messing with the current votes, because I'd add that, but it only allows 5 options. Should I exchange "other" with that?

You forgot to add AI5 Needs more Buff for this poll.

The poll is on how you think the current buff is, whether it should be removed, kept, or other.

[Ekki]

What are the current odds of winning an upped card from AI5? ( sorry if it was said but I missed it. )
The old odds were something like 1% right?

It's like 1.5-2% now, but if things were as I said (if one card is upped, so is the entire set), it would be really higher without having to add more upped cards...

Oh yeah, I forgot that. Am I able to change the poll without messing with the current votes, because I'd add that, but it only allows 5 options. Should I exchange "other" with that?

I think you should exchange "other", or "needs to be removed", since they have less votes And allow changing our votings (and maybe also voting twice)

[chb369]

Reset poll to 0, with two new added options:

AI5 Needs more Buff (zse)
AI5's upped cards should be of the same type (Krathos)

You can now all re-vote. 

[Krahhl]

I think the AI should use AI decks, and T50 should be moved next to pvp. That allows a smoother transition between AI3 and AI5 with a new AI4, which can be partially upgraded (like AI5 before the buff) and follow normal rules (100hp and single draw). Then, the difficulty of AI5 could be increased to 50% upgraded cards, living up to its name of half-blood and giving a decent chance at winning upgraded cards while being easier than false gods.

[wizelsnarf]

That makes too much sense Krahhl! It can't happen.