patch 1.26 AI5 upgraded cards

[chb369]

AI5 has 30% in upgraded cards now

In the current 1.26 version of the game zanzario wrote that AI5 has 30% of its cards upgraded versus in 1.25 having 15% upgraded.

I feel that this makes the AI5 much too hard to beat. I recently played some games versus AI5 in the hopes that I get another upgraded card (i heard its 1.5% chance to), but after about 20 games i had noticed that i had lost a bunch of electrum. I patch 1.25 I had won about 50% of the time, but now I'm only winning about 25% of the time.

I use a fairly standard shrieker rush deck for AI5 consisting of A time mark, 16 Stone Towers, 1 Long Sword, 1 Titanium Shield, 6 Graboids, and 6 Shriekers.

Anyway, In summary I think that for new-ish players like me who only have a handful of upgraded cards, and not too much electrum, this update of AI5 having 30% upgraded cards it a bit much. Maybe 20% would have been good, but doubling it makes it pretty challenging now. My opinion is that the old one was good enough, and this buff should be removed from AI5.

I'll update the post later if I think I missed something.


EDIT 1: added a poll 

[wizelsnarf]

Actually the change isn't to buff AI5 as much is it is to make them worth playing.

The 200hp makes their games really long and not worth it if you look at the reward/time. So nobody played them.


Now with 30% upped cards, you have a real chance to win upped cards from them, which makes it worth playing them. I already won an upped wings and an upped abomination from them.


Very very happy with the update, please keep it this way.

[Kamietsu]

Shrieker rush for AI5 is bad, mmkay. It can't rush fast enough and long enough to take out their doubled HP. And the randomness gives you less of a chance. Change your deck and you will be fine

[Krahhl]

I patch 1.25 I had won about 50% of the time, but now I'm only winning about 75% of the time.

Lolwut.

Anyways, what kami said. Shrieker rush is not the way to go if you want a good win rate against AI5.

[Ekki]

Actually the change isn't to buff AI5 as much is it is to make them worth playing.

The 200hp makes their games really long and not worth it if you look at the reward/time. So nobody played them.


Now with 30% upped cards, you have a real chance to win upped cards from them, which makes it worth playing them. I already won an upped wings and an upped abomination from them.


Very very happy with the update, please keep it this way.

That said, I agree with both up to some point.

I agree that AI5 is better than before right now (rushing is fail against double hp and double draw, not to mention randomness of decks).
I disagree with just making double amount of upped cards, it's like the Fractal nerf.

IMO, it should have 15% or whatever percentage of upped cards, but every card of the same type must be upped or unupped (i.e. not 3 novas and 3 supernovas), to make spins easier.

[chb369]

Actually the change isn't to buff AI5 as much is it is to make them worth playing.

The 200hp makes their games really long and not worth it if you look at the reward/time. So nobody played them.


Now with 30% upped cards, you have a real chance to win upped cards from them, which makes it worth playing them. I already won an upped wings and an upped abomination from them.


Very very happy with the update, please keep it this way.

I like the upped chance of actually getting upped cards, but am unhappy anyway, because I seem to be losing more coins rather than earning them.

Shrieker rush for AI5 is bad, mmkay. It can't rush fast enough and long enough to take out their doubled HP. And the randomness gives you less of a chance. Change your deck and you will be fine

Well, what are some good fast/unupgraded decks for AI5? I'll use them.

I patch 1.25 I had won about 50% of the time, but now I'm only winning about 75% of the time.

Lolwut.

fixed

IMO, it should have 15% or whatever percentage of upped cards, but every card of the same type must be upped or unupped (i.e. not 3 novas and 3 supernovas), to make spins easier.

I totally agree it should be something more like that, instead of the doubled % of upped cards.

[Ekki]

Well, what are some good fast/unupgraded decks for AI5? I'll use them.

Err, there aren't a lot (I've tried only one, and it was a fail), as AI5 is kinda broken, for the reasons stated in this post and some other more, but if anything turns out, it should appear here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11027.0.html)

[chb369]

Well, what are some good fast/unupgraded decks for AI5? I'll use them.

Err, there aren't a lot (I've tried only one, and it was a fail), as AI5 is kinda broken, for the reasons stated in this post and some other more, but if anything turns out, it should appear here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11027.0.html)

I know that there aren't that many unupgraded AI5 decks, which is exactly why the upgraded card % buff is not great in my opinion. For people who don't have much electrum/upgraded cards, it's just making AI5 more like a false god.

[thatnewguy]

Firestall is great for AI5

[chb369]

Firestall is great for AI5

I found it, but unfortunately it's upgraded, so I can't really use it.

[thatnewguy]

you can use it with only SoG's upgraded

[chb369]

you can use it with only SoG's upgraded

oh yeah, didn't think of that, but unfortunately i dont have SoGs, just 6 green shards. its funny they're actually the next thing on my list to upgrade. I'll test it in the trainer.

i also noticed the topic is going slightly off-topic, because the main reason i made the thread was because i felt like the AI5 buff should be removed or changed, not to find good ai5 decks, although that's great too.