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New Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8109.msg91839#msg91839
« on: June 15, 2010, 12:02:57 am »
Here are some ideas for new elements and their counterparts... i know most of you wont like it...but i think it'd be really cool if zanz came out with like 12 (or even 6) new elements at one point

Metal vs. Gas
Dry vs. Moist
Warm vs. Cool
Magic vs. Truth
Electric/Lightning vs. Enthalpy?
Psychic vs.
Rock vs.
Faith vs. Science
Blood vs. Plasma?
Divinity vs. Void (Bloodshadow's not mine)

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Re: New Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8109.msg91893#msg91893
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2010, 12:40:33 am »
None of those are very elemental-y

faith and science? Dry and Moist? really?

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Re: New Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8109.msg91931#msg91931
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2010, 01:08:13 am »
None of those are very elemental-y

faith and science? Dry and Moist? really?
I agree, some are good, but others... IDK, just are more of statuses, nothing to do with elements
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Re: New Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8109.msg92119#msg92119
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2010, 05:19:10 am »
this is like introducing a new race in Starcraft 2. It's gonna take forever to balance.

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Re: New Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8109.msg92137#msg92137
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2010, 05:43:57 am »
Here are some ideas for new elements and their counterparts... i know most of you wont like it...but i think it'd be really cool if zanz came out with like 12 (or even 6) new elements at one point

Metal vs. Gas
Dry vs. Moist
Warm vs. Cool
Magic vs. Truth
Electric/Lightning vs. Enthalpy?
Psychic vs.
Rock vs.
Faith vs. Science
Blood vs. Plasma?
Divinity vs. Void (Bloodshadow's not mine)
You have these balanced wrong.

Science and Magic would face each other, because there isn't really a Faith Element in the game. Although if it were there, it would be against Truth.
Plasma is in Blood, so you can't have this opposition.
Dry/Moist and Warm/Cool would both go under the Fire/Water spectrum. And it would be Hot/Cold, not Warm/Cold.
Rock is covered under Earth.
Metal/Gas cannot be done, as there are also non-metal solids. And what about liquids?
And the others are not really needed, although Divinity/Void sounds cool.

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Re: New Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8109.msg92145#msg92145
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2010, 05:51:08 am »
In short, Divine is the aggregation of all elements, while Void is the nullification of all elements (or no elements).
To be or not to be, I can do both at once. Go learn quantum mechanics, n00b.

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Re: New Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8109.msg92206#msg92206
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2010, 07:07:12 am »
Lukewarm vs. Room Temperature.

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Re: New Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8109.msg95068#msg95068
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2010, 02:23:17 pm »
I dont think we need more. It would OP cards like Nova, Immolation, Black Hole etc. and weaken especially Quantum Towers. But I just laughed when I read Gas, Truth and Enthalpy. Doesnt  :light transmit a feeling of truth? Or  :fire / warm ,  :water / cool and so on.

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Re: New Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8109.msg95134#msg95134
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2010, 04:42:22 pm »
Metal vs. Gas - Metal seems nice but would require some gravity cards to change, Gas however is just Air + AEther.

Dry vs. Moist - Desert would almost work if it weren't for the fact that that's what time is in game. Moist is just stupid as we already have water and you can't get much more moist than that.

Warm vs. Cool - Fire vs. Ice? Ice could possibly be separated from water but we do have both of these temperature based elements already.

Magic vs. Truth - Truth seems more like it should be a theme within another element than an element itself and magic is another dumb suggestion. "I'm casting some magic!" "Really, what element?" "Magic Element!" :Facepalm:

Electric/Lightning vs. Enthalpy? - Electricity could make an element but other elements would have to lose it first.

Psychic - This feels like a combination of entropy and time (possibly aether too) to me.

Rock - Earth

Faith - You can't cast faith.

Science - high tech = bad in these games.

Blood vs. Plasma? - Blood seems too close to darkness and death. Plasma is... what exactly? AEther?

Divinity vs. Void - Divinity = Light/AEther, Void however seems like a worthwhile element. Void is an element solely about getting rid of things and as such would have (random) discard, deck destruction (mill in M:tG), the ability to place creatures on the bottom (like reverse time) and other such nothingness based abilities. Oh and quanta denial.

I'm all for void if a 13th ever gets added but no to all of the others.

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Re: New Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8109.msg95156#msg95156
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2010, 05:21:10 pm »
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Divinity = Light/AEther
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In short, Divine is the aggregation of all elements, while Void is the nullification of all elements (or no elements).
Please don't argue with me, because as the OP said, Divine and Void was originally my idea. Divine uses the Zanz trident as its icon.
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Re: New Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8109.msg95160#msg95160
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2010, 05:29:06 pm »
Metal vs. Gas

Metal would take Armagio away from Gravity, Steam Machine away from Water... No.
Gas is Air.

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Dry vs. Moist
Warm vs. Cool




Fire vs Water?


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Magic vs. Truth

No. Please, no.
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Electric/Lightning vs. Enthalpy?


Again, Lightning would take away some cards from existing elements
Enthalpy? A variation of Thermic Energy?

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Psychic vs.

Psychic versus Zombie. Everybody knows ZOMBIES search for BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINS!
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Rock vs.
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Rock vs Astaroth or Setsuka.
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Faith vs. Science

Again, taking away cards.
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Blood vs. Plasma?


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Re: New Elements? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8109.msg95181#msg95181
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2010, 05:59:14 pm »
Here are some ideas for new elements and their counterparts... i know most of you wont like it...but i think it'd be really cool if zanz came out with like 12 (or even 6) new elements at one point

Metal vs. Gas
Dry vs. Moist
Warm vs. Cool
Magic vs. Truth
Electric/Lightning vs. Enthalpy?
Psychic vs.
Rock vs.
Faith vs. Science
Blood vs. Plasma?
Divinity vs. Void (Bloodshadow's not mine)
Metals aren't always solid, they can be liquids
Warm and Cool are too like Water and Fire
Half the game is spells, which is like Magic
Electricity and Lightning are covered by Aether and Air
I would place anything Psychic under Entropy
Rock is covered under Earth
Blood fits under Darkness or Death
Plasma has two meanings.
     One kind is really hot, and would be Fire or Aether.
     The other is in your blood.
Divine and Void are the accumulation and absence of Elements.

So, all in all, I think the game has enough Elements.
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