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Elements the Game => Game Suggestions and Feedback => Topic started by: Jorys on October 10, 2013, 05:49:54 pm
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I just thought today of a new potential element which could be implemented into a future update - Thunder or Electric, now, before you all say "but we have Electrocutor and Thunderstorm already" yes, Thunderstorm is part of Air, but isn't actually Air...It's thunder for a reason. In my opinion, Thunderstorm would be moved to the Electric element, and Lobotomizer would gain a new upgraded name, as Electrocutor would be the Electric weapon. Time would also gain a new color as Electric would be Yellow, and the little symbol would be a lightning bolt through the yellow. Time would possibly gain :chroma sort of color, maybe :underworld. I have some ideas for potential cards too Shockwave would also go under the electric category, and the name of shockwave would be Sonic Boom. Here they are
Thunderstorm - same as what it already is *Costs the same*
Shockwave - Deals 3 damage to a creature. *3*
Electrocutor - Deals 4 damage at the end of each turn, immortal (kind of like a tazer gun) *4*
Spark - say no more (Spark removed from Aether) *1* 3/0
Lightning - same as what it normally is *Costs the same*
Shard of Thunder - Heals the player for upto 20hp if their mark is Electric, if their mark isn't electric, this does 10 damage, 15 if the mark is :water *6*
Void - Void deals 1 poison for every successful attack 1/3 *2*
Tornado shield - Reduces damage by 2, deals 5 damage if stolen *5*
Bumblebee - 3/2 *3*
Yellow Dragon 10/7 *9*
Raiju 6/6 Momentum *5*
Rattlesnake - 2/2 Immortal *2*
Thunderbird 3/6 Dive costs 1 :air *4*
Valkyrie 9/8 Momentum, Immortal *13*
Buraq 5/5 transforms into a Pegasus when hit with reverse time, Dive costs 2 :darkness *6*
These are some of my card ideas, if you can think of any more, feel free, the numbers marked with * indicate how much Electric quanta they would cost.
Just an idea, thanks! :)
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What a subtle way to suggest nerfing :air
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> take every :air card
> make it worse
WE HAVE A NEW ELEMENT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!
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Electricity goes under :aether. No new element needed.
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> take every :air card
> make it worse
WE HAVE A NEW ELEMENT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!
Actually, most of these are better than Air cards.
Void doesn't fit into Thunder (much better name than Electric, this ain't pokemon) at all. There's already Shard of Void in Darkness for good reason. Electricity has always been part of Aether, from cosmic to molecular to artificially created. Weather control is part of Air. That said, this could be a new Element with a completely different name/theme. With things like Valkyrie, Raiju and Buraq this seems more like an Element of divinity and mythos. 'Course, divinity is in Light and mythos is everywhere.
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10-7 dragon for 9 quanta? i thought emerald dragon was OP...
i would suggest keeping lobo in aether and creating a new card named 'Valkyrie Lance' which decreases target creature's attack by 1 for 2 (1 upped) quanta.
hmm this is giving me an idea for a card...
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But everything aside, if someone could check the validity of my assumption, I believe that Zanz has no interest in expanding past the 12 elements we currently have.
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I remember there was a hot topic about 2 new elements. I think they decided on wood and steel or something. Anyways it didn't work out (I'm not entirely sure because I went inactive) but yea, it has been suggested before.
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I think that was the Gaian v Cthonic thing that was headed by ZBlader, which didn't deal so much with new Elements as it did as pushing for two unifying themes?
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yes, that. Forgive my bad memory. But I do remember it was discussing the possibility of new elements and not just themes? I'm not sure. Well it didn't get anywhere in the end anyways... EtG is still the same, good 12 elements.
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Zanz doesn't seen to be planning adding many more cards anytime soon (maybe 1.4 will see 1 or 2 new cards), much less a whole new element.
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While the number of new cards that will be added in 1.4 is in the air, if he even decides to add some, I'm fairly certain that he has explicitly stated that there won't be any other elements.
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Besides hinting at Mark of Chroma
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^ that, though that's really just the "other" mark of course.
The way I see it, most any idea you can think of can already fall under one of the twelve elements. We have everything from the natural to the metaphysical to philosophical. The lore here is pretty complete. As has been mentioned, your idea of a thunder element can fall into air, light, and aether, depending on the theme.
I will say however that a few of your ideas are fantastic, thematically. Raiju and Buraq are really interesting, and I'd love to see you submit a complete card idea for them in our "Card ideas and art" section. Maybe think about the mechanics first though? Like, why does Raiju have momentum, and why does buraq turn into a pegasus with reverse time, or require dark quanta to dive? ?_?
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I did the research regarding the two, Raiju is an ancient mythological beast from ancient times, it's also where Raichu the pokemon got it's name. Basically it was believed to be a fast creature, thus having momentum, maybe acceleration. Buraq is an old arabic winged horse type thing, thus similar to Pegasus, Buraq would thus turn into Pegasus with reverse time, as saying "Reverse Time" on something ancient, is reverse psychology, making it more upto date seeing Pegasus/Pegasi. Theoretically speaking however, there isn't much of a difference between Buraqs and Pegasi at all. And yes, having a Thunder dragon, would kind of be OP, as each element is OP in it's own way, Valkyrie Lance sounds absolutely amazing, I should've thought of that, thankyou for saying that Dawn to Dusk. That also contradicts my statement of the Lobo. Cthonic vs Gaian seems pretty cool, although Cthonic would go under Earth, as the word Cthonic translates from Kthonic (Greek) into Earth. Gaia was also the Goddess of Earth in ancient Greek, making it a Greek Deity, could be a potential name for a new False God maybe, or a new " God Card " which is extremely rare...I mean literally extremely rare.
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Or, I just thought, based on Norse Mythology, name the Thunder weapon, Mjolnir, after God of Thunder Thor's mighty hammer
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Besides hinting at Mark of Chroma
Even though it is far from a new element, that actually creates a bunch of new possible strategies, with the rest of the pendulumns (like the really old quantum pendulumn idea). Maybe he can finally add some creatures and spells to 'other' too ...
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The only problem with that: Nova- The one reason that Other cards need to be needlessly nuanced.
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You could argue that about the weapons and shields (nova + long sword or tower shield), it depends a lot on what gets added.
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Problem with new elements is that it would make nova and entropy shield (and every "other "card) even better, and quantum tower a bit worse. And would require lots of coding, not to mention it wouldn't really improve the game.
Mark of Chroma sounds good, :entropy rainbows like it.
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Ok, that was just a vote: no new elements. So:
There is no need for a new element. There is not enough interaction between elements to make having a new element interesting. 12 is already extravagant - compare to other CCGs. Any new card idea can be made to fit into an existing element.
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Void doesn't fit into Thunder (much better name than Electric, this ain't pokemon) at all.
Thunder is the sound produced by lightning. Sound travels through air, and so the name Thunder is much more fitting for an Air element. I agree that Electric isn't a good name, but I even less agree that Thunder is a good name for an electricity element.
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This is when I tell you to read the rest of that post.
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This is when I tell you to read the rest of that post.
Amusing, but I read the whole post. I'm only addressing part of it in that people after you started calling the "New Element" Thunder as well. I am aware that the majority of your post was not about naming, but it was the first response to address it. It's not personal, but just the earliest reference to point at in the thread in order to say what I wanted about naming.
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Actually, the entire post is about its theme, leading up to a conclusion about its name. Here: "With things like Valkyrie, Raiju and Buraq this seems more like an Element of divinity and mythos. 'Course, divinity is in Light and mythos is everywhere."
Thunder was picked out of Electric and Thunder because of the reasons I mentioned and because the OP presented those two options. That's all there is to that.
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Actually, the entire post is about its theme, leading up to a conclusion about its name. Here: "With things like Valkyrie, Raiju and Buraq this seems more like an Element of divinity and mythos. 'Course, divinity is in Light and mythos is everywhere."
Thunder was picked out of Electric and Thunder because of the reasons I mentioned and because the OP presented those two options. That's all there is to that.
I understood that. Was just putting in my 2 cents about the name Thunder.
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