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Evil Hamster

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Mutations: Where's the Queen? Sniper? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=647.msg6227#msg6227
« on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:01 pm »

A creature with feral bond?  :o

Evil Hamster

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Mutations: Where's the Queen? Sniper? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=647.msg6228#msg6228
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:01 pm »

Yes. Vultures with 0 strength and momentum!

(There's a thread about that somewhere)

Pilchard123

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Mutations: Where's the Queen? Sniper? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=647.msg6229#msg6229
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:01 pm »

Why not? It'd be a prime target for copying, killing, etc. And if Armagio is big enough to warp space-time towards him, then surely a creature could be big enough to block out the sun, or make clouds that do that.

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Mutations: Where's the Queen? Sniper? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=647.msg6230#msg6230
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:01 pm »

Actually, Sniper WAS available a while back, don't know what happened to it, maybe Zan thought it too OP even though it was really rare to get, but I agree, having the Queen ability would be a nice thing to have too.

As for the momentum ability, I've noticed that if a creature has a flash around it, then if you mutate it with it getting the momentum ability, then that will be its ability coster. I've noticed this especially with creatures with sucky abilities that were still usable, then I mutate it and get a creature with like..."3 L: momentum" or something like that.

Sigh

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Mutations: Where's the Queen? Sniper? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=647.msg6231#msg6231
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:01 pm »

I think thats because its a newer ability compared to mutation. I don't expect any other abilities to be added to the mutation roster either due to the code for it probly (not a coder) being so unweildy. XD

Skillgannon

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Mutations: Where's the Queen? Sniper? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=647.msg6232#msg6232
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:01 pm »

Some people are just messing around... but I think any ability a regular creature has should be able to be on a mutant.

Anyway, Queen is possible... just really rare.  I've had a 3/7 Firefly Queen with the ability Queen.  So basically... I mutated a Firefly Queen.  It was a little weird... and it popped out normal Fireflies instead of Elites.  Kind of useless, but hey... it's possible.

thearchduke

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Mutations: Where's the Queen? Sniper? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=647.msg6233#msg6233
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:01 pm »

I don't believe vampire is on the list of available mutation abilities either.

thearchduke

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Mutations: Where's the Queen? Sniper? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=647.msg6234#msg6234
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:01 pm »

I've noticed that some abilities are not allowed on mutations.  You never get a creature with sniper or queen ability!  There's no reason for this.  Also, you get creatures that have an "activate-able" momentum ability, but that should really be a "grant another creature momentum,"  IMHO.  ANy other mutation weirdness?

thearchduke

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Mutations: Where's the Queen? Sniper? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=647.msg6235#msg6235
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:01 pm »

Why not? It'd be a prime target for copying, killing, etc. And if Armagio is big enough to warp space-time towards him, then surely a creature could be big enough to block out the sun, or make clouds that do that.
Hmm, a Cloud Titan card with eclipse ability?  I likes...

zakal

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Mutations: Where's the Queen? Sniper? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=647.msg6236#msg6236
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:01 pm »

I think queen and sniper may be too powerful for random mutations.  Improve might be too good.  Momentum should definitely be there though.  Lobotomize could be nice.  Also, fire/earth/life/etc quantum generating skills should be in there. 

0/3 dive for 2 green quantum is my favorite mutation of the day. 

zakal

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Mutations: Where's the Queen? Sniper? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=647.msg6237#msg6237
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:01 pm »

Oh, interesting to know that momentum might be in there somewhere.  Vampire might be good, but I could see it being OP when/if you get a 10+str vampire creature. 

Maybe some of the permanent enchant abilities, such as eclipse, feral bond, etc, might be nice to see on the mutation list.

Delreich

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Mutations: Where's the Queen? Sniper? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=647.msg6716#msg6716
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:03 pm »

Anyway, Queen is possible... just really rare.  I've had a 3/7 Firefly Queen with the ability Queen.  So basically... I mutated a Firefly Queen.  It was a little weird... and it popped out normal Fireflies instead of Elites.  Kind of useless, but hey... it's possible.
It shouldn't be, according to ck (the guy with the source). http://elementsthegame.wikia.com/wiki/Mutant
What kind of quanta did the ability cost? I'm guessing something went wrong and the ability step got skipped.

 

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