Pseudo buff to AoE spells and Mirror/Jade Sheild

[xdude]

I propose AoE spells also affect the opponent player. Rain of Fire, Thunderstorm, Plague and all the ones to come. Reflective shields would reflect them.

[Kamietsu]

Sounds like a rather large nerf to AoE spells. You want Rain Of Fire to hurt the opponent for 3, while hurting all the creatures for 3, but if you have a reflecting shield, it would hurt yourself for 3 and all your own creatures for 3? Or just the 3 damage to yourself? Would plague then give you one poison, and thunderstorm 1 damage? With or without reflecting the effect on the creatures?

[xdude]

Sounds like a rather large nerf to AoE spells. You want Rain Of Fire to hurt the opponent for 3, while hurting all the creatures for 3, but if you have a reflecting shield, it would hurt yourself for 3 and all your own creatures for 3? Or just the 3 damage to yourself? Would plague then give you one poison, and thunderstorm 1 damage? With or without reflecting the effect on the creatures?

Only the damage on the Player would be reflectable, creatures would act the same. Perhaps Plagues wouldn't be reflected, just like Poison.

[Kamietsu]

Ah ok. I don't see a strong reason as to why not. though Plague would be a bit to powerful then, in my own opinion at least. But it sounds like an alright idea. Would Pandemonium not affect the player at all, I presume? Could be fun to have a random effect befall your weapon.

[zse]

I don't understand your proposal. Maybe it's because English isn't the first language for either of us...

Here's the 3 alternatives that I think you could have meant:
(1) If I have Mirror and opponent plays Rain of Fire, every creature gets hit (like un-upped Pandemonium).
-OR-
(2) If I have Mirror and opponent plays Rain of Fire, my creatures would NOT get hit (as if they were all quinted/burrowed).
-OR-
(3) Something else.

If you're proposing (1), then it would be pretty balanced buff in my opinion.
If you're proposing (2), then I'd be against it, as it would be too powerful buff in my opinion.
If (3),

[Kamietsu]

I don't understand your proposal. Maybe it's because English isn't the first language for either of us...

Here's the 3 alternatives that I think you could have meant:
(1) If I have Mirror and opponent plays Rain of Fire, every creature gets hit (like un-upped Pandemonium).
-OR-
(2) If I have Mirror and opponent plays Rain of Fire, my creatures would NOT get hit (as if they were all quinted/burrowed).
-OR-
(3) Something else.

If you're proposing (1), then it would be pretty balanced buff in my opinion.
If you're proposing (2), then I'd be against it, as it would be too powerful buff in my opinion.
If (3),

Rain of Fire will hit the opponent for 3 damage, as well as damage all the creatures. If you have a reflecting shield, that 3 damage you received will be reflected back unto yourself.

[xdude]

I don't understand your proposal. Maybe it's because English isn't the first language for either of us...

Here's the 3 alternatives that I think you could have meant:
(1) If I have Mirror and opponent plays Rain of Fire, every creature gets hit (like un-upped Pandemonium).
-OR-
(2) If I have Mirror and opponent plays Rain of Fire, my creatures would NOT get hit (as if they were all quinted/burrowed).
-OR-
(3) Something else.

If you're proposing (1), then it would be pretty balanced buff in my opinion.
If you're proposing (2), then I'd be against it, as it would be too powerful buff in my opinion.
If (3),

(3).

RoF will also damage the opposing player, for 3 HP. In case of a Mirror/Jade Shield, the caster is being hit (for 3) instead.

[ratcharmer]

Two questions:

-Why do you think this would be an improvement? (I'm not necessarily against the idea, just not sure why you want to change it).

-How would pandemonium work?

[xdude]

Two questions:

-Why do you think this would be an improvement? (I'm not necessarily against the idea, just not sure why you want to change it).

-How would pandemonium work?

• A small buff to the never used Mirror/Jade Shields.
• Generate a random effect, and if it's unusable on the player (TU, Rewind, etc.) It just cancels.

[MXXE]

Generate a random effect, and if it's unusable on the player (TU, Rewind, etc.) It just cancels.

Rewind could possibly make the opponent skip the next draw. Freeze (and any delay possiblilites, if ever added) would delay the weapon, like the voodo doll mechanic.
TU. Copy weapon and place it as animated? Maybe OP
Gravity pull could render your shield ineffective (since g-pulled creatures have priority over shields), but probably OP agian.

[killybob]

hmm i think it's a good idea, but it could get complicated