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Re: [Suggestion] Unoriginality in Arena? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42113.msg523712#msg523712
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2012, 08:07:50 pm »
I think I put up a suggestion somewhere that suggested the oracle gave you a number from 30-60 each day. Your arena deck would either have to be that large, or you would get some benefit if you built it that large (double the monetary gain, slightly higher rank increase...etc)

That's also a very good suggestion, however it doesn't prevent ghostmare decks (or every other overused kind of decks) to be built again and again...  :(
It allows for more creativity than just swapping out one card. A 45 card ghostmare is much more manageable than a 35 card one.

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Re: [Suggestion] Unoriginality in Arena? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42113.msg523735#msg523735
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2012, 08:41:15 pm »
when you spin the oracle, after you get the card, there could be a side info showing 2 other elements. if you built a deck using one of those elements, you would get 50% more money and score. if you managed to build a deck using at least those 2 elements, you would get 100% more money and score, thus encouraging more creative decks. its just a mod from what you already said, but i think this would work best

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Re: [Suggestion] Unoriginality in Arena? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42113.msg523736#msg523736
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2012, 08:46:20 pm »
That there sounds like a trig bit of work. I like it. Would actually make some sort of thought process happen in arena decks.. Which one doesn't see much of.
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Re: [Suggestion] Unoriginality in Arena? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42113.msg523737#msg523737
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2012, 08:47:28 pm »
I think I put up a suggestion somewhere that suggested the oracle gave you a number from 30-60 each day. Your arena deck would either have to be that large, or you would get some benefit if you built it that large (double the monetary gain, slightly higher rank increase...etc)
I actually like this idea. Would like to see it implemented in someway.
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Re: [Suggestion] Unoriginality in Arena? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42113.msg523738#msg523738
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2012, 08:49:04 pm »
That there sounds like a trig bit of work. I like it. Would actually make some sort of thought process happen in arena decks.. Which one doesn't see much of.

would probably need a bit rework, as it could still be easily splashable, like just putting a random  :fire and :time card on a  :aether deck with oracle card being psion or something. maybe a minimum limit should be used, like 6 card minimum or 4, just so it doesnt allow splashing without cutting on the deck's overall performance

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Re: [Suggestion] Unoriginality in Arena? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42113.msg523949#msg523949
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2012, 11:41:59 am »
I think this idea will not help at all. It could even harm. Imagine a player decides to create this mono aether:
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and gets the message: "This deck already exists". What will this player do ?
This here should be typical:

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and so on...
... or with "dead cards" as a "personal signature".
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Hardly new variety is created. One of these mini-variation will work. Or do you believe that a player decides to create an entire new strategy just because one deck doesn´t work ? No.
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Re: [Suggestion] Unoriginality in Arena? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42113.msg523961#msg523961
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2012, 01:36:24 pm »
I don't think the point is to end uncreative decks. That would be impossible while we're still sharing our decks around. But adding a penalty or incentive to not create an unoriginal deck sounds like a good idea. It would have to be explicitly stated in the intro screen or something, but I wouldn't mind something like this.
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