Make T50 and T500 seperate things.

[grindpower]

ZBlader said a good post saying why the T50 should stay, and it convinced me. But maybe the T500 will offer other players a chance to show their powerful decks. So I'm suggesting the T50 and the T500 should be two seperate things. T500 could even be the new AI4 if Zanzarino would like that to happen, but T50 deserves to stay.

Where to put T50?
Perhaps the PvP buttons could have a new layout and the T50 could be near them like this:

PvP 0 PvP 1 PvP 2 T50

Or the AI could have a new layout and be like this:

Level 0 Level 1 Level 2 Level 3 T500 T50 Level 6

And the Fake God Level will be "level 7" in Quests.

T50 needs to stay as ZBlader has clearly explained here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17943.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17943.0.html) T500 will be a brilliant addition but it doesn't mean T50 has to be replaced by it.

Thank you for reading.

[ratchetspyro94]

I read this and it actually seems like a good idea. You wont have the problem of t50 going away. Plus it would give something new to look at when your at the menu.

[RootRanger]

In the T500 you have ranks. 10% of the T500 are in the T50 of the T500 but not necessarily in the T50. Meanwhile, the T50 are not necessarily in the T50 of the T500 (not the T50).

See how confusing you made everything. Thanks a lot.

If you are still following this I shall bring in my next argument against the T50.
Rares should be rare. Currently, they are not. I have a strong feeling that more rares are coming. There are already shards and weapons in the forge, and Zanz has introduced new rares before (SoR). Zanz has plans to give players a chance to win rares if they win three games in a row against T500. This means the new rares will be won with skill, opposed to getting lucky by playing a farm.

Source:
[21:48:14] zanzarino: T500 rewards are about the same, but... winning 3 times in a row against T500 should give a shot to a rare card
[21:48:40] zanzarino: THat way it also replaces the rare farming
[21:48:58] zanzarino: But it is more fun than just clicking until a farm pops up

[EvaRia]

Seriously though, T500>T50 in every way, except maybe you have less of a chance to find the names of the Top players.

You get a chance at spinning a rare every time you win 3 games in a row anyways, what's left that makes T50 worth keeping?

[grindpower]

It's nice for a better challenge, and when you beat a good deck, you have a chance for winning a good card from that deck.

[Retribution]

The reason T50 was removed was because it made rares a joke. Rares are rares for a reason. I do think T50 should go.

[ddevans96]

It's nice for a better challenge, and when you beat a good deck, you have a chance for winning a good card from that deck.

Which are both things t500 will likely do better. The wide variety of decks cause by the oracle's instructions would provide a higher challenge than the current t50. As it is you can fit almost every deck under either life and fire rushes, control timebows, fractal and fire stalls, and various types of farms.

With the system Zanz currently has in mind, t50 is shadowed in pretty much every way.

[smuglapse]

One thing I remember from Jr. High:

[Mithcairion]

While I do have most of the rares (aside from SoDs, SoRs, and Nymphs), I can definitely see both sides of the argument.  With the current incarnation of T50 it can be very easy to get a decent amount of rares in a relatively short period of time and while this doesn't necessarily appeal to me challenge-wise, I can definitely see how someone who's been playing for two weeks or so and is lukewarm on the game (enjoys it, but isn't consumed by it as many are) would get put off by how inaccessible the rares would be with the T500.  I could also see an additional deterrent to newer players being the difficulty of decks that would be presented in the T500, and thus rares would still essentially be inaccessible to them even with the 'win three in a row, get a shot at a rare' dynamic built in.

Now, as for me, I personally look forward to rares becoming rare again.  Aside from my mad grind to get the SoGs (FG farming can be maddening without them), I haven't even played the T50 because of this:

As it is you can fit almost every deck under either life and fire rushes, control timebows, fractal and fire stalls, and various types of farms.

Also, keep in mind that not a one of us knows just how the Oracle's instructions will manifest themselves.  The T500 decks could be killer, or could be rather tame.

All in all, I'm looking forward to the changes.

[RootRanger]

Rares aren't disappearing or anything. For a good player with a decent deck, you can win rares just as much from the T500 (just win 3 games in a row, nothing hard). But if someone has a poor deck rares are harder to find. When it comes to rare distribution, Zanz is trying to award skill instead of luck, and I think most of us want that.

[doublecross]

T50 does devalue rares. Too many people put up farms.


Theoretically, T50 could stay with a proviso that if any deck in it has lost more than half of the last hundred battles, it will stop appearing in T50. That would discourage people leaving up farms.

[ninjamaster1991]

keep both, but turn all rares in T50 into Relics.http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,18686.msg257101#msg257101 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,18686.msg257101#msg257101) rare discussion, look into it.