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how should upgraded cards be worth upgrading

add a random effect to the card being upgraded
get more damage from upgrading
more quanta decreas
nothing, fine as it is

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Re: upgraded cards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42138.msg523903#msg523903
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2012, 07:29:34 am »
increase the quntum cost to maybe 2500 but a buff to any upgraded card is needed
1500 is 2 much already . specially for newer players. you dont want to increase the gap from new players and old players as it will make game really un-attractive.

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Re: upgraded cards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42138.msg523950#msg523950
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2012, 11:42:14 am »
A better topic for discussion might be:  which PARTICULAR cards are hardly worth upgrading?  I'll start by nominating Lycanthrope!
I disagree. This is a thread about whether the current degree of upgrade is ideal or if it could be improved.

The thread may be for that, but I'm pretty sure that the name of this subsection is "Buff This Card!" and not "Buff ALL Cards!" Instead of making a thread about all of them, adress the ones that namely would need a buff upgraded, following the guidelines of this subsection. This thread just seems out of place IMO.
Where would you place a Buff All Cards thread? I feel the subforum for buffs is the correct place for this thread.

The guidelines point is a fair one. However most of the guidelines can still be followed with this thread.


Well, this subforum is for specific buffs or nerfs, and if a Buff All Cards shows up it's a rather big change, so it probably should be in Game Suggestions and Feedback as a whole and not on a card-by-card buff/nerf/berf subforum. Of course I'm not the one to decide that, and threads should come and go as they wish, but, my two cents.

Also, about the guidelines, they can be followed to a certain extent, but..

This forum section is for posting card buffing suggestions.


Here's what you do:

1. Pick a card that you think is weak and needs buffing (you can only pick ones that haven't been already picked)
2. Start a new topic where you include a picture of that card and a short explanation on why you think this card needs a buff, and how it should be buffed.


I only see number 3 (that I edited out) being implanted, which is the "Add a poll" rule... So it's not really "most of the guidelines", it's more like "One of the guidelines." But anywayz. Back to topic, I see no reason for the buff. 1.5k is fairly  easy to get after you know what to farm (Plat/FG)
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Re: upgraded cards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42138.msg524462#msg524462
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2012, 03:32:58 am »
1.5k is fairly  easy to get after you know what to farm (Plat/FG)
Uh, no. Knowing that Plat and FG give the highest rewards don't instantly make it easy. I've been playing for years and because of my slow grind speed I only have a handful of upped cards.
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Re: upgraded cards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42138.msg524575#msg524575
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2012, 02:12:01 pm »
1.5k is fairly  easy to get after you know what to farm (Plat/FG)
Uh, no. Knowing that Plat and FG give the highest rewards don't instantly make it easy. I've been playing for years and because of my slow grind speed I only have a handful of upped cards.

If you're farming it with the wrong decks, then yes. It's not easy. If you put in any deck that does o.k, 1 win in plat covers up to ~3-4 losses. Gold is also easy to farm, and can wield rewards just a bit lower (and sometimes, higher) than Plat. And no, it's not knowing that they give the highest rewards, it's knowing the decks to use against them. Use a counter to your predicted FG and you can already gain a upgraded card +50 to 120 electrum. Plat, rares and even a higher output of electrum. Just because your grind speed is low doesn't mean everyone else's is...

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Re: upgraded cards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42138.msg524743#msg524743
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2012, 10:36:36 pm »
Same logic. Just because your grind speed is relatively fast, doesn't mean everybody grinds, let alone grinds as fast as others do. The issue at hand isn't whether or not a player knows how to grind Plat/FG- it is whether or not a player [newbie] has the resources to grind efficiently. Not everybody can build SPlat, Instosis, or even a half upped speedbow.
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Re: upgraded cards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42138.msg524788#msg524788
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2012, 01:45:38 am »
Same logic. Just because your grind speed is relatively fast, doesn't mean everybody grinds, let alone grinds as fast as others do. The issue at hand isn't whether or not a player knows how to grind Plat/FG- it is whether or not a player [newbie] has the resources to grind efficiently. Not everybody can build SPlat, Instosis, or even a half upped speedbow.
Exactly. I've been on the forums a decently long amount of time, I know what decks to use and where to use them and what rewards I can get. But I'm a slow grinder, and pretty unlucky with my draws and my spins. Electrum is almost always a problem for me, and raising the cost of upgrades is a horrid idea for people like me and for new players in general.
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Re: upgraded cards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42138.msg525903#msg525903
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2012, 06:01:10 pm »
I think giveing the whole card a new look would be good too. I hightly vote for diffrent effects too.

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Re: upgraded cards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42138.msg539024#msg539024
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2012, 04:02:05 pm »
DOUBLE BUFF!
Buff not once, but twice! :D
First buff = not so powerful than it is today
Second buff = stronger than it is today

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Re: upgraded cards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42138.msg539030#msg539030
« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2012, 04:20:41 pm »
DOUBLE BUFF!
Buff not once, but twice! :D
First buff = not so powerful than it is today
Second buff = stronger than it is today
No. For 2 reasons.

1) The average upgrade is 1.5 quanta in value. Mostly in 1 or 2 quanta magnitudes. Less than 1 quanta in magnitude is hard to do and very restrictive.
2) This has been suggested before and the conclusion was it would widen the gap between new players and veterans. The gap is already near (or past) the point of maximum benefit.
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Re: upgraded cards https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42138.msg540122#msg540122
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2012, 07:06:33 am »
they dont need change...there are perfect.
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