Immortal 0/5 Otyugh - balancing suggestion (-> 1/5 Otyugh)

[teffy]

If the enemy has an immortal 0/5 Otyugh there is only one way to remove it - feed it with a smaller creature.
But then, the Otyugh can often get other creatures.
So I would suggest to make the upped Otyugh to a 1/5 creature and the unupped version to a 1/3 creature.
This way, it can be removed by Fire Shield and Thorn Carpace, before you have creatures out.

Edit: Otyugh is poisoned, when it eats poisonous creatures, now, no need for a 1/5 nerf anymore.

[miniwally]

There's no point in that, it only makes the otyugh stronger and worse against 2 shields, the oty will devour some creature soon so you might as well keep it I can't see why you want it to be 1|5 considering you're worried about devourer but to get to one attack in the first place it has to eat soemthing.

[kalkiran]

im not sure where i heard this but how about it dying of hunger? yknow after 3 turns if it hasnt eaten it dies automaticly?

[miniwally]

Why does otyugh need nerfing anyway?

[teffy]

Immortal Otyughs are common in many rainbow decks, and there´s no way to get rid of them, if they haven´t eaten one of your creatures.
And Miniwally forgot Procrastination.

[miniwally]

They take a while to set up and are a great creature that doesn't need to be nerfed, no way to get rid of immortal pests do they need to be nerfed, no way to get rid of immortal sapphire chargers do they need to be nerfed? according to you lots of cards would need to be nerfed because you can't kill them when they're immortal but that's the point of them being immortal, you can't kill them.

[teffy]

Pests and Sapphire Charger don´t kill your creatures.

[miniwally]

Pests and Sapphire Charger don´t kill your creatures.

If you're keeping the oty at 0|5 it won't be killing your creatures either.

[Cancerplus]

Pests and Sapphire Charger don´t kill your creatures.

If you're keeping the oty at 0|5 it won't be killing your creatures either.

But it's also stopping you from playing vital creatures which will cause you to lose since you are not doing anything! Battles are not won by staring at Oty's and hoping it will go away. And even if you do play something...

Well worst situation ever?

Quinted Oty gets down.

You have a bunch of critters and it's just one oty! And you have an explosion/steal just in case a shield gets put up so you CHAAARG!

Opponent puts up bonewall which is very common in decks that would have quinted Oty's.

Oty eats all your critters one by one until there is nothing left but a pile on bones and an obese Oty.

[harakirinosaru]

They take a while to set up and are a great creature that doesn't need to be nerfed, no way to get rid of immortal pests do they need to be nerfed, no way to get rid of immortal sapphire chargers do they need to be nerfed? according to you lots of cards would need to be nerfed because you can't kill them when they're immortal but that's the point of them being immortal, you can't kill them.

A creature that can control pretty much everything else single-handedly, can do it forever, and is nigh impossible to kill.

Neither Devourers and Sapphire Chargers can do this. I mean, the creature can beat Gods by itself. That sounds balanced.

I don't really care about the damn thing anymore, because I can always deal with it, but I can see how it can look unfair to beginners.

[Cancerplus]

They take a while to set up and are a great creature that doesn't need to be nerfed, no way to get rid of immortal pests do they need to be nerfed, no way to get rid of immortal sapphire chargers do they need to be nerfed? according to you lots of cards would need to be nerfed because you can't kill them when they're immortal but that's the point of them being immortal, you can't kill them.

A creature that can control pretty much everything else single-handedly, can do it forever, and is nigh impossible to kill.

Neither Devourers and Sapphire Chargers can do this. I mean, the creature can beat Gods by itself. That sounds balanced.

I don't really care about the damn thing anymore, because I can always deal with it, but I can see how it can look unfair to beginners.

[miniwally]

I have never seen an otyugh take down a god by its self otherwise why aren't there decks with 6 quints and 6 otys if they're so good, they just can't get up enough attack to take down the gods.