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neilchan

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I hope some cards will be weaken https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4332.msg42793#msg42793
« on: March 23, 2010, 02:07:11 pm »
Quicksand

Type: Spell
Cast Cost: 2
Spell effect
Destroy up to 3 pillars in the target cluster.

Cost 2 , Destroy up to 3 pillars.
In my deck only has 16 pillars, you doesn't think it not nerf?

Phase Shield

same by Quicksand ,and it can exist forever without steal or destroy.
I hope all weapon effect will increase Active skill cost. May be 5 cost.

Type: Shield
Cast Cost: 5
Passive skill
Shield: Shift out of phase for 3 turns. Physical attacks are unable to hit you while this shield is in play.

Cost 5 is too less for midway battle and 3 turns is too long.
I know this is reference by 遊戲王 - 光の護封剣
But it only put 1 .


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Re: I hope some cards will be weaken https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4332.msg43156#msg43156
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2010, 05:15:39 am »
Empath is another one that needs tweeking.

I don't understand why you can have multiple copies of that but not Nightfall/Eclipse

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Re: I hope some cards will be weaken https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4332.msg43161#msg43161
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2010, 05:39:45 am »
Empath is another one that needs tweeking.

I don't understand why you can have multiple copies of that but not Nightfall/Eclipse
Eclipse stacking means that you could sacrifice your 13/7 Virus (that's right, a creature that costs 1 :death would be that big) to make six 14/8 skeletons. Who needs dragons, then?

polusmaximus

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Re: I hope some cards will be weaken https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4332.msg45632#msg45632
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2010, 04:53:28 pm »
To get 6 X 14/8 skeletons as you describe, you need a lot of different cards(multiple bone pillar + multiple obsidian pillar + virus + 6 bone yard + 6 Eclipse)

.......Not exactly a combo you could pull off every game, right?

Having multiple empaths also cheapen the value of Shard of Gratitude


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Re: I hope some cards will be weaken https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4332.msg45681#msg45681
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2010, 06:04:21 pm »
Multiple bonds are only useful, if you have multiple creatures out.... Fire Queen for example has a lot of bonds out, but her healing can be reduced by a LOT with only 1 Rain of Fire/Firestorm.

Also 6 Shards of Gratitude heal you for 30/turn and cost a total of 12 random quantum, if I remember that correctly.
For bonds to be as effective you need at least 2 Bonds for 10 :life and 15 creatures, or 3 bonds for 15 :life and 10 creatures, or 4 bonds for 20 :life and 8 creatures, 5 bonds for 25 :life and 6 creatures or 6 bonds for 30 :life and 5 creatures. This using Feral bonds, using empathic bonds will be even MORE expensive, considering you have to get creaures out!

For example, you have to bonds, 10 :life, a graveyard, 3 :death and a firestorm, 5 :fire and get those 15 skellies to match the healing power of 6 SoGs, you need a total of 18 quantum vs. 12 random (!!!!) for shards, which can be played after 1 nova.

After the nerf, I don't think, bonds need to weakend any further.

Quicksand is quite powerful, but can be prevented by protection pillars using enchant artefact/ protect artefact. Costs should be increased though.

Phase shield can be stolen / destroyed. They can't exist forever, they can only be chained. They are also the ONLY shield aether has. If costs are increased, Aether mono can be rushed way too easily, as they can't set up an early defence.

If nightfall/eclipse stack.....then have fund fighting Morte & Incarnate!

 

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