And waterknight, both weapons currently have an ability that does NOTHING.
This so called ability (wich is just a name) causes problems when endowed by a crusader, since the crusader now has the useless ability it can't be Luciferased anymore.
We agree with you that we don't want to make the weapons weaker then they are, but we don't want any abilities that are useless anyway and cause problems, so we want those removed.
..... did I just fall for the sarcasm trap?....