Get rid of "uber" rarity for marks.

[QuantumT]

Really if you want to talk about the difference between new players and vets, marks are the least of your concern. They will only make a difference in a very small number of the games they are used in, and their incredible rarity means they will basically never make a difference.

Additionally, if they're ever found to make enough of a difference that people think it's an issue (which they obviously currently don't), they can be banned, meaning the only time they would matter would be in random pvp, where my full rare weapon collection, numerous nymphs, and plethora of upped cards will make a far bigger difference than marks ever would.

Sure, they'll be able to get them eventually, but it will take a long time and in the mean time there will be a much, MUCH bigger gap than that caused by marks. This is especially true for the nymphs, where the number I have is more or less strictly dependent on how long I've been playing. A new player will never be able to make up this difference, because on average for every nymph they win, I'll win one.

Basically, if you're going to complain about the difference between new players and vets, marks are the last thing you need to worry about.

[Uppercut]

This isn't about new players vs vets.

[QuantumT]

This isn't about new players vs vets.

It's a much bigger gap than the one you're complaining about.

[ddevans96]

To everyone: Just because you believe that your points are valid and the other person is wrong does not mean you get to speak in an impolite way. Sarcasm and anger are not going to get a point across very well. Just my two .

Marks provide protection from certain strategies and it is unhealthy for the game if they're only available to tournament winners. In fact I'd say no card should be available to such a small subset of people, it unbalances the game. That is all kthx.

I don't think there is too much of a problem with marks. Providing protection from certain strategies is not always a bad thing, and a single mark does not affect a deck much. However if you have won several tournaments and have collected several of one mark then it can be damaging to decks made to ruin quanta sources.

If there is a way to add the excess marks for half bloods and false gods to the spinners after a match or even make a small chance to get a mark from the oracle it could make it more available while still keeping it a highly rare card, it would probably be good.

[DrunkDestroyer]

To be honest here Uppercut, I don't really see what you are arguing about.
The advantage is generally not very big; in fact, it only affects one card (earthquake) since nobody has enough to completely replace pillars with marks.
In fact, it makes equal amounts of situations more difficult, since you cannot protect just one stack if upped or different from your original mark, and it also makes it harder to get EMs by using SoGs or Bonds before the weapon attacks.

If marks were more common, I feel this would be a bigger problem.(Right now it is slightly >2 people winning a mark per week on average - because of other event/competitions). Right now, the majority of the people don't even know of the existence of marks, showing how little they are used. If there were more (and especially if it was done on Oracle, meaning it would spread virally through Kong)- it would be much more problematic. It would still be extremely rare, but less rare to come across in PvP.

If they were buyable, then EQ would become useless. Right now, their advantage is neligible (and may not even exist). I think they are fine as is, and if they were more available, then it would just be more problematic, and if they were 'deleted' then all those tourney winners wouldn't be very happy - a nymph doesn't have the same value in the eyes of the beholder.

[ItzSean]

For skilled players winning a mark is easier than winning a nymph.

No it isn't, and even if it is it won't be for long.

Yea.. It kinda is. If a player that very little experience goes into a tourny and a vet goes in.. depending on the deck matchups, I'd put my money on the vet.

[RootRanger]

But is it because or the vet's marks? No, because of his skill.

[ItzSean]

But is it because or the vet's marks? No, because of his skill.

^This.

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[guy_fawkes]

why not simply add them in the oracle...
they would be as rare as nymphs..

[ItzSean]

That'd be a good idea, but then that gives extra incentive to the player base to participate in tournaments.

[guy_fawkes]

i do think that the major problem in people partecipating in tournaments is the timezone the live in...
not the rewards...

[ItzSean]

Fawkes.. There wasn't ever a problem.