Voting losing decks in Arena

[Taglio]

Hello everybody.
I'm a long time casual player, and sometime I find very original decks in Arena, some are wanky, some are weird, but I happen to win against decks which are ill balanced, but with core ideas original and funny.
I would like to vote for those decks, have their players gain someting, even if their silver arena deck lost against my uber-all-upgraded-cards world-wreaking deck.

would it be possible to add a function to vote for losing decks?
Maybe it could work like a 'sponsorship', so that the voter has to pay to sponsor the losing deck (and probably it would be better if this won't affect the listing very much...).

I don't know, what do you think?

Taglio

[Pineapple]

The problem is that any change has to walk the thin line between being effective enough to make a difference, keep those arena decks active, etc. and being marginal enough to prevent fill-the-arena-with-farm-decks abuse.

[ColorlessGreen]

The problem is that any change has to walk the thin line between being effective enough to make a difference, keep those arena decks active, etc. and being marginal enough to prevent fill-the-arena-with-farm-decks abuse.

If this is a concern, thumbs up for losing decks could just be an electrum bonus and not even affect rating, though I don't think that the arenas would be suddenly overwhelmed by farms and such if the thumbs up to a losing deck caused it to only lose half as much rating (for example) as it would when thumbsed down.

I personally think this change is extremely important to the spirit of the arena. Thumbs up/down on winning decks helps encourage creative decks a bit, but the vast majority of the decks I play against that I want to thumbs up are decks I beat, particularly in the lower leagues where fully upped decks win just about every game where they don't have a bad draw.

FWIW, I put this particular change as the #2 (non-card-related) improvement needed throughout the game, right after peak rank/rating stats for your submitted deck in the main arena screen.

[Taglio]

@ colorless: I think you got the idea behind my proposal (thanks for explaining it much better!  )

[Silux]

Even without direct benefits i'd like to know how many "likes" my arena deck receives, as many time it later become my pvp deck or casual deck.
An original and funny deck that lose, misses the goal of posing a challenge so has to go down.

However given how little electrum i get from the arena i'd like more to get to know how many rated it up.
It would make me happier to know 5 players found it interesting, than 75 electrum

[CuCN]

How much electrum you get is actually related to how many people like your deck, because you get double electrum if someone gives your deck a thumbs up. The way you calculate how many people like it is to divide the amount of electrum by a particular value depending on the arena (the only one I know is platinum=12, but the other values can be found somewhere) and then subtract the number of wins. This works unless your deck reached the top ten.

[Taglio]

actually the idea was to uphold deck that are original and funny.

I am bored to see ultra-winning air shard decks, or poison-shard of death decks: they are all the same, even if they win.
maybe the one who built a losing deck had a really ground-breaking idea, or his deck is real fun, but just badly balanced: if nobody sees that deck idea, nobody rates it, well' it's lost to the community.

On the other hand, if it gets approved by the opposing (and winning) players it won't climb the ladder to upper degrees, but it could be noted more often and somebody can develop the idea in a better deck.

Plus I'd like to give extra money also to invertor of losing decks, if they finally relived me of the boredom of time-darkness decks with ghost of the past, but without any imagination...

Taglio

[aefields]

I like the idea.  It isn't high priority, but I'd like to see it eventually get added.

[DeathKnyte]

Hi All,


Good subject.

Good thing I ran a little search before posting about it myself.


Any ways, as Taglio mentions in the opening post, I too see some decks that inspire me, or I feel are creative in their own "quirky way", and they never get any positive votes. At least not that I'm aware of.

Most of the times that I really want to vote for something I enjoyed playing against, or thought the author had put some effort into trying to devise it, is when I win. I suppose I lose mostly because I'm up against a deck that has a hard  counter to my own, or through horrendous draws. But even then, I don't hold it against the winning one.

Other thing, as I inquired about this a few times in chat the last while, is that just about everyone I've spoken to, automatically votes down upon a loss. People seem to react negatively to losing, no matter the deck's composition.

I feel that this rating system should be reflected upon a bit, and pehaps review wether it can be altered in a way that might be more within the original (fun and creative) intention.