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Re: General Things https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55156.msg1148716#msg1148716
« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2014, 11:25:26 pm »
Lobo isn't splashed more because there is pretty much always a better option.
There isn't really a better option. Removing a creature's skill is always a positive thing in my book. However, I believe Lobo isn't splashed more because the damage is pathetic and it is much more used because of the skill. The skill of Lobotomizer is not that good. People would most definitely use Lobotomizer more if its damage was raised . Therefore, in my opinion Lobotomizer isn't used has much because the damage is pathetic.
Is it not better to splash in lightning to outright kill creatures, or to provide extra damage for end game? In my opinion it is. Silence is also a solid option, stopping quite a few decks right in there tracks.
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Re: General Things https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55156.msg1148896#msg1148896
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2014, 10:16:24 pm »
The only reason I use lobotomizer in any deck I use is specifically to remove creature skills and creature skills only. I do not care about the damage. If my deck was a rush, I would probably use lightning instead, because those are faster. In more stall decks, I would consider using both.

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Re: General Things https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55156.msg1148913#msg1148913
« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2014, 11:11:44 pm »
The only reason I use lobotomizer in any deck I use is specifically to remove creature skills and creature skills only. I do not care about the damage. If my deck was a rush, I would probably use lightning instead, because those are faster. In more stall decks, I would consider using both.

Totally agree that lobotomizer is all about the effect, not the damage. Another important benefit that lobo offers, particularly in thin, 30-card decks, is you would generally only use 2 card slots to incorporate it into the build, rather than probably a minimum of 4 to incorporate lightning bolts.

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Re: General Things https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55156.msg1148916#msg1148916
« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2014, 11:17:28 pm »
The only reason I use lobotomizer in any deck I use is specifically to remove creature skills and creature skills only. I do not care about the damage. If my deck was a rush, I would probably use lightning instead, because those are faster. In more stall decks, I would consider using both.

Totally agree that lobotomizer is all about the effect, not the damage. Another important benefit that lobo offers, particularly in thin, 30-card decks, is you would generally only use 2 card slots to incorporate it into the build, rather than probably a minimum of 4 to incorporate lightning bolts.
I see your point but since the card is about the effect and not the damage, what is to stop me from using a mind flayer? I can fit it into a deck much easier and it saves me from using my weapon slot so it allows for me to use a different weapon, like discord.

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Re: General Things https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55156.msg1148922#msg1148922
« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2014, 11:31:56 pm »
A mind flayer is easier to remove and deals less damage. A mind flayer is two elements.
If you care about removing skills, it's unlikely you're going to care about weapon damage.

In rainbows, yes. In duos and trios? ... No, I'll stick to lobo.

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Re: General Things https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55156.msg1148935#msg1148935
« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2014, 12:12:59 am »

There isn't really a better option. Removing a creature's skill is always a positive thing in my book. However, I believe Lobo isn't splashed more because the damage is pathetic and it is much more used because of the skill. The skill of Lobotomizer is not that good. People would most definitely use Lobotomizer more if its damage was raised . Therefore, in my opinion Lobotomizer isn't used has much because the damage is pathetic.

There isn't a better option, but the damage is pathetic and the skill of lobotomizer is Not that good. Also, even though there is no better option

I see your point but since the card is about the effect and not the damage, what is to stop me from using a mind flayer? I can fit it into a deck much easier and it saves me from using my weapon slot so it allows for me to use a different weapon, like discord.

Make up your mind

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Re: General Things https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55156.msg1148936#msg1148936
« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2014, 12:15:48 am »

There isn't really a better option. Removing a creature's skill is always a positive thing in my book. However, I believe Lobo isn't splashed more because the damage is pathetic and it is much more used because of the skill. The skill of Lobotomizer is not that good. People would most definitely use Lobotomizer more if its damage was raised . Therefore, in my opinion Lobotomizer isn't used has much because the damage is pathetic.

There isn't a better option, but the damage is pathetic and the skill of lobotomizer is Not that good. Also, even though there is no better option

I see your point but since the card is about the effect and not the damage, what is to stop me from using a mind flayer? I can fit it into a deck much easier and it saves me from using my weapon slot so it allows for me to use a different weapon, like discord.

Make up your mind
Minor Self-Contradiction. The damage of lobotomizer is pathetic and the skill is much better used in mind flayer and ulitharid than it is in a permanent.

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Re: General Things https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55156.msg1148937#msg1148937
« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2014, 12:17:54 am »
Thus, there are better options, like Discord, that you've said yourself. Thus, this argument is useless, as you contradicted yourself plentily now.

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Re: General Things https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55156.msg1148938#msg1148938
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2014, 12:20:24 am »
Thus, there are better options, like Discord, that you've said yourself. Thus, this argument is useless, as you contradicted yourself plentily now.
The post I just made was correcting the self-contradiction.  :)

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Re: General Things https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55156.msg1148939#msg1148939
« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2014, 12:21:56 am »
Dm going for fallacy fallacy?

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Re: General Things https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55156.msg1148941#msg1148941
« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2014, 12:22:26 am »
Thus, there are better options, like Discord, that you've said yourself. Thus, this argument is useless, as you contradicted yourself plentily now.
The post I just made was correcting the self-contradiction.  :)

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Re: General Things https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55156.msg1148942#msg1148942
« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2014, 12:27:40 am »
Please. Allow me to clarify myself then. I see my mistakes.
- Lobotomizer is not as great a choice for a weapon as other weapons such as discord are.
- I edited the first post and it looked like I stated lobotomizer is OP along with the other cards in Aether. Lobotomizer is not overpowered. It adds on to aether being overpowered. But it isn't overpowered.
- The skill of lobotomizer is much better to use in Mind Flayer than in lobotomizer.
- Contradicting my earlier statement, yes, there are better options than lobotomizer.

 

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