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Re: Elements and their subtle difference between equal cards ("bonuses") https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45387.msg1027328#msg1027328
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2013, 12:53:45 pm »
I don't understand why you want formulae and rules set in stone. Isn't common sense better?

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Re: Elements and their subtle difference between equal cards ("bonuses") https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45387.msg1027329#msg1027329
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2013, 01:00:20 pm »
I don't understand why you want formulae and rules set in stone. Isn't common sense better?

Common sense tends to be a very imprecise tool.
Formulae tends to be less imprecise. (Who said anything about stone?)
Playtesting is the least imprecise.
That I why I advocate using all 3.
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Re: Elements and their subtle difference between equal cards ("bonuses") https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45387.msg1027338#msg1027338
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2013, 01:57:20 pm »
However, this "cost theory" is made and developed by players. Nobody knows if zanz uses such a theory. I only know that there are "elemental bonuses" because zanz has mentioned that in chat (like +atk/-def for fire) . All other rules like "+1 atk per 10 :fire" are guesswork.
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Re: Elements and their subtle difference between equal cards ("bonuses") https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45387.msg1027358#msg1027358
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2013, 04:42:41 pm »
However, this "cost theory" is made and developed by players. Nobody knows if zanz uses such a theory. I only know that there are "elemental bonuses" because zanz has mentioned that in chat (like +atk/-def for fire) . All other rules like "+1 atk per 10 :fire" are guesswork.
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1) Cost theory is a quantitative model of balance. Being made and developed by players is not a problem since balance can be evaluated.
2) The elemental bonus do not appear in the most recent version of the theory.
3) I believe* it is fair to say that Zanz uses a more intuition based balancing method than the analytical cost theory method.
*Believe based on a response to an interview question.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2013, 04:44:26 pm by OldTrees »
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