Dragon Balance

[Retribution]

Zanz, could you please try to balance the element's dragons a bit more? I know different elements are supposed to have different strength creatures for different costs, but having dragons of the same stats but different costs is kind of absurd in my opinion.

Amethyst Dragon is 12/6 for 11  .
So why is Obsidian Dragon 12/6 for 12  ?
Sky Dragon is 13/7 for 12  .

And Silurian Dragon is 13/4 for 12  , but Arctic Dragon is 13/5 for 11  .

Could someone explain this to me? Besides the fact that different elements are supposed to be powerful in different spots, but I disagree with that.

[Anothebrother]

different elements are supposed to be good at different things...

Horned Frog and Blue Crawler are both 3/3...but Frog cost 2  and Crawler 3

However...  is supposed to have fast cheap creatures, and subsequently has no creature control (except a 75% poison shield with a 7 cost) and no perm control... has Freeze, Ice Bolt, and Ice shield...

[Retribution]

different elements are supposed to be good at different things...

Horned Frog and Blue Crawler are both 3/3...but Frog cost 2  and Crawler 3

However...  is supposed to have fast cheap creatures, and subsequently has no creature control (except a 75% poison shield with a 7 cost) and no perm control... has Freeze, Ice Bolt, and Ice shield...

different elements are supposed to be good at different things...

Horned Frog and Blue Crawler are both 3/3...but Frog cost 2  and Crawler 3

However...  is supposed to have fast cheap creatures, and subsequently has no creature control (except a 75% poison shield with a 7 cost) and no perm control... has Freeze, Ice Bolt, and Ice shield...

They are more balanced out upgraded though...
6/6 for 4 and 5/3 for 2.

[PuppyChow]

Time needs a lot of quanta anyway, with hourglasses and pharaohs and other high costs like eternity. So a dragon costing 12 time isn't actually as big a deal to pay for as it would be for, say, earth, where there are usually less towers in a mono deck.

For the entropy/darkness difference, darkness has pests, steal, drain life, eclipse, dusk mantle... Lots more powerful cards and ways to make the dragon benefit. While entropy has antimatter and discord and that's almost the extent of it. So entropy's dragon costs less because it's from a less versatile element.

Air needs more attackers, and its dragon has more benefits compared to the darkness dragon for the same reason as entropy. Air has eagle eyes, shockwaves, and unstable gas. What else could a mono air use to good effect? Nothing, so its dragon is a little bit stroner.

[smuglapse]

Elements are and should be balanced as a whole.  Dragons are adjusted accordingly.

[Retribution]

If what you say is true, than why are the unupgraded versions of these dragons balanced?

[rakazy8564]

What about Elite Phase Dragons?  Though they are Immaterial, they are only 10/6 and cost 14 I want it to be 11/5 or even 12/5 as the it keeps it normal damage output when the opponent brings up his Flame Buckler (Thorn Carapace is another story, unsure how to deal with that as it's 75% unless a .75 damage counter is sufficient into calculating its average damage output).

[xdude]

What about Elite Phase Dragons?  Though they are Immaterial, they are only 10/6 and cost 14 I want it to be 11/5 or even 12/5 as the it keeps it normal damage output when the opponent brings up his Flame Buckler (Thorn Carapace is another story, unsure how to deal with that as it's 75% unless a .75 damage counter is sufficient into calculating its average damage output).

Actually, decreasing the HP to 5 would buff it a lot, because it would be able to slip through Grav Shield.

[rakazy8564]

What about Elite Phase Dragons?  Though they are Immaterial, they are only 10/6 and cost 14 I want it to be 11/5 or even 12/5 as the it keeps it normal damage output when the opponent brings up his Flame Buckler (Thorn Carapace is another story, unsure how to deal with that as it's 75% unless a .75 damage counter is sufficient into calculating its average damage output).

Actually, decreasing the HP to 5 would buff it a lot, because it would be able to slip through Grav Shield.

Darn you saw right through that xD  But it doesn't seem fair that they can hit us when we're using our Phase Shields and we can't hit them when they're using their Gravity Shields.

[xdude]

What about Elite Phase Dragons?  Though they are Immaterial, they are only 10/6 and cost 14 I want it to be 11/5 or even 12/5 as the it keeps it normal damage output when the opponent brings up his Flame Buckler (Thorn Carapace is another story, unsure how to deal with that as it's 75% unless a .75 damage counter is sufficient into calculating its average damage output).

Actually, decreasing the HP to 5 would buff it a lot, because it would be able to slip through Grav Shield.

Darn you saw right through that xD  But it doesn't seem fair that they can hit us when we're using our Phase Shields and we can't hit them when they're using their Gravity Shields.

You can hit them with immortals and Phase Spiders. They can hit you to momentum. Fair enough IMO.

[Retribution]

Phase dragons are fine as they are in my opinion...

[Arondight]

Current Dragons are okay in my view; their stats reflect the capabilities that their Elements hold.