Deja Vu

[Cisco]

I like the idea. Don´t think it be to overpowered as all you have to do is kill the copy with the ability. it be as strong or maybe slightly stronger than a scarab deck. though cost and activasion would have to be raised.

[Cisco]

yes be a good card for rainbow. As soon as SD is fixed, rainbow won´t be so overpowred though.

[Daxx]

Here's a question: Deja-Vus are extremely cheap and this makes them useful. Is there any reason that with this ability they wouldn't be dumped en-masse into Rainbow decks (which are powerful enough as they are)?

[ejnomad07]

I like it. I however suggest that the original creates 1/1 Phantom Deja Vu. This keeps anything from copying over.

[ejnomad07]

I like it. I however suggest that the original creates 1/1 Phantom Deja Vu. This keeps anything from copying over.

Then it wouldn't be any better than a FFQ. The point of Deja Vu is to buff it, and then split it into duplicates. I think that if this does happen, Deja Vu's cost will be raised from 1 Time to probably 5 or 6 Time, and the cost for it's ability could either be what EH suggested, or a flat rate of 3 to 4 Time quantum, or perhaps equal to it's Power, etc.

It doesn't have to be better. It's perhaps faster, and lets you play in another element. Letting me do the same thing pretty much in another element is just as awesome. I don't mind diversity.

[ejnomad07]

I like it. I however suggest that the original creates 1/1 Phantom Deja Vu. This keeps anything from copying over.

Then it wouldn't be any better than a FFQ. The point of Deja Vu is to buff it, and then split it into duplicates. I think that if this does happen, Deja Vu's cost will be raised from 1 Time to probably 5 or 6 Time, and the cost for it's ability could either be what EH suggested, or a flat rate of 3 to 4 Time quantum, or perhaps equal to it's Power, etc.

It doesn't have to be better. It's perhaps faster, and lets you play in another element. Letting me do the same thing pretty much in another element is just as awesome. I don't mind diversity.

What I was getting at was that if it only made 1/1 weakling clones, or 2/2 Elite clones, then what would be the point of playing it? Sure, it's a bit cheaper, but Boneyards and FFQs would still be so much better that there'd be no point in playing it. Also, it wouldn't make sense to have a beefed up Deja Vu split and have the clone be tiny instead of equal.

Just bouncing off his idea and trying to work it. To be honest I would like the thing two put the ability on all of them and just copy itself on both over and over. Just limit it to the original unbuffed copy everytime. That would be scary enough.

[Evil Hamster]

I think if this change is made, the cost should be 2*X where X=Strength. There is now a precedent for variables in the Scarab health, so it even fits the "Time" theme.

yes be a good card for rainbow. As soon as SD is fixed, rainbow won´t be so overpowred though.

I just hope the QT bug is fixed before sundials are nerfed- otherwise certain FGs will be impossible to beat.

[Evil Hamster]

That would be WAY overpowered. Just think about a starting hand of Deja Vu and 3 blessings....

[oaky180]

blessing it up a few times and you have a powerful army

[Scaredgirl]

I agree with OP 100%. This is how Deja Vu should work.

I don't see how they would be WAAAAY overpowered because there would still be many ways to counter them. But the cost of using the ability should probably be increased.

[thearchduke]

In another board, there was a discussion about how at AI3, the computer occasionally plays a mono-time deck that everyone agrees truly sucks.  It has no rares and really can only win by getting good draws on its fate eggs. 

My suggestion is to beef up Deja Vu.  Instead of making it copy itself and both copies lose the ability, allow one to keep the ability.  This "new card" would be insanely easy to implement, since only one small change would need to be made.  And this would allow time to swarm or pair quite nicely with light for blessing or entropy for chaos blessing (yes, these are already decent but with new ability, this deck becomes much more workable).

Anyway, time as an element is mostly just a ghetto for cards that only rainbow decks use.  The deja vu alteration would go a long way towards making it relevant.

[thearchduke]

EDIT: Also, I think this should be in the Feature Requests section, not the Card Requests section, since you're suggesting a change to an existing card, not suggesting a new card completely.

Duly noted.