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Title: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: DarkStelth52 on January 09, 2012, 12:53:11 am
It was a way of getting rares that didn't take a million hours... Plus, it gave you ideas for real decks, not crazy triple sign double draw decks. AND, it rewarded you for playing well!

Please bring the Top 50 Back!
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: furballdn on January 09, 2012, 01:03:14 am
There's a reason rares are called rares. It gave you ideas for real decks? Don't you mean shard farms?
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: DarkStelth52 on January 09, 2012, 01:06:24 am
There's a reason rares are called rares. It gave you ideas for real decks? Don't you mean shard farms?
The problem is, you have to play many consecutive hours for any chance at earning a rare. And even after you've won a ton of consecutive games, there is still a strong chance that you won't get a rare. Also, I remember getting a varied adrenaline/vampire deck idea from the top 50. I fail to see how the Top 50 really ruined this game, it actually made it exciting.
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: furballdn on January 09, 2012, 01:08:49 am
T50 makes rares much easier to get and the actual opponents you face in T50 are easy compared with the bonuses they get in arena. Arena inspires more creative builds, such as triple marks that allow you to summon graboids powered off your mark in a mono time deck for example. You don't have to play for consecutive hours for getting a rare. Just a few consecutive wins. It's really not that hard. If rares were supposed to be easy to get, you might as well just buy them from the bazaar.
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: jmdt on January 09, 2012, 01:09:41 am
There's a reason rares are called rares. It gave you ideas for real decks? Don't you mean shard farms?
The problem is, you have to play many consecutive hours for any chance at earning a rare. And even after you've won a ton of consecutive games, there is still a strong chance that you won't get a rare. Also, I remember getting a varied adrenaline/vampire deck idea from the top 50. I fail to see how the Top 50 really ruined this game, it actually made it exciting.



Arena >>> T50

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Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: DarkStelth52 on January 09, 2012, 01:16:15 am
The thing about the Arena is this: In order to beat higher level players, you need a lot of upgraded cards. A LOT. And upgrading cards takes a lot of time. A LOT. And even if you create a good deck, chances are low you'll win 4 times in a row. And THEN you have to try a slot machine to get a chance at a rare. Seems way to time- consuming for me.
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: furballdn on January 09, 2012, 01:19:04 am
The thing about the Arena is this: In order to beat higher level players, you need a lot of upgraded cards. A LOT. And upgrading cards takes a lot of time. A LOT. And even if you create a good deck, chances are low you'll win 4 times in a row. And THEN you have to try a slot machine to get a chance at a rare. Seems way to time- consuming for me.
If you don't like it, don't play the arena. Seriously. You can get rares from AI3 as well. Even an unupped deck can have good chances against bronze or silver. And besides, you don't even need rares to be a good player. Plenty of good decks don't have much rares in them.
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: DarkStelth52 on January 09, 2012, 01:20:59 am
If even good decks don't have rares in them, then why make rares insanely hard to obtain? If they aren't even that useful?
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: furballdn on January 09, 2012, 01:21:49 am
If even good decks don't have rares in them, then why make rares insanely hard to obtain? If they aren't even that useful?
It's a card game. Of course some cards will be easier to get, and some cards will be harder to get.
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: DarkStelth52 on January 09, 2012, 01:24:13 am
True, but I still fail to see why some cards are soooo much harder to obtain than others. I mean, 100 electrum towards getting a dragon, or numerous hours towards getting a not-so-good rare? The gap is just too big .
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: omegareaper7 on January 09, 2012, 01:53:34 am
True, but I still fail to see why some cards are soooo much harder to obtain than others. I mean, 100 electrum towards getting a dragon, or numerous hours towards getting a not-so-good rare? The gap is just too big .
There called RARES for a reason. However, i do like the idea of bringing top50 back, but without the spins that made it a farm fest. I don't know  about others, but i would still play a spin-less top50.
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: Aves on January 09, 2012, 01:55:46 am
If even good decks don't have rares in them, then why make rares insanely hard to obtain? If they aren't even that useful?
Some good decks have/rely on rares. Some good decks don't have/rely on rares. That is the meaning of furballdn's statement.

Rares are special, powerful cards. They take up special slots/bring special bonuses that cannot be matched easily. That is why they are rare.

You can get 100 electrum in a few minutes through AI-3. You can also get a rare in probably less than an hour with a decent bronze grinder.
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: pikachufan2164 on January 09, 2012, 02:27:35 am
Zanz didn't like how farms made rares much less rare than they were supposed to be. Hence, T50 was removed and Arena was brought in. The Arena system still does allow farms to exist, but the competitive nature of the Arena and the fact that farms only last 2-5 losses before deactivating means that they are heavily discouraged.

End result: rare cards are rare (as they're meant to be), but there are still ways of winning them (via bonus rare spins or just regular spins, if an opponent's deck used rare cards).
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: TheIdioticIdiot on January 09, 2012, 02:32:03 am
T50 was not a good system, for reasons already mentioned, however:

I don't think arena is much better of a system, what arena does is simply prolong the farming, not necessarily make rares rarer, it's just as easy to get rares as it was before, just more time-consuming

I do agree that farming for rares is still just as boring, and now it takes longer

some system should be introduced to make getting rares harder, and taking more time is not harder, just boring and annoying

Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: Acsabi44 on January 09, 2012, 08:42:05 am
Just go play MtG. You only need to invest like 1000$ into booster packs to earn your well-deserved rares. Nothing compared to actually playing the game and trying to win rares.
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: rowcla on January 09, 2012, 08:56:04 am
simply put no

And it doesnt take that long to get rares, just play the game...
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: ralouf on January 09, 2012, 10:56:25 am
No but I wish something were we could see the 50 best score in the game
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: Shrink on January 09, 2012, 11:10:03 am
It was a way of getting rares that didn't take a million hours... Plus, it gave you ideas for real decks, not crazy triple sign double draw decks. AND, it rewarded you for playing well!

Please bring the Top 50 Back!
Have you ever played pvp?
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: DoubleCapitals on January 09, 2012, 11:49:45 am
The was a reason for T500 replacing T50. Moving on...
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: Xamuel on January 09, 2012, 12:25:29 pm
And THEN you have to try a slot machine to get a chance at a rare.
Did you know that you can respin individual slots in the special spin?  Notice there are blue circles with arrows in them corresponding to each of the three slots.  You can re-spin each one up to three times (pic related: in the picture I've re-spun the left slot one time, and it can be re-spun up to two more times; the other two slots can be re-spun up to 3 times each)

You probably already knew that, but it's not like it's spelled out anywhere, and I know I missed it on my very first special spin.  Maybe the programmers could arrange that the first time a new account gets a special spin, an info box pops up explaining this mechanic?
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: teffy on January 09, 2012, 10:59:32 pm
You probably already knew that, but it's not like it's spelled out anywhere, and I know I missed it on my very first special spin.  Maybe the programmers could arrange that the first time a new account gets a special spin, an info box pops up explaining this mechanic?
Sometimes you see some lines with the the text " click to re-spin" - donĀ“t know exactly when - So the developer thought about that.
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: Retribution on January 10, 2012, 01:16:52 am
I don't really want top 50 back, but I do want a way to view the scores of the accounts with the highest scores, and a leaderboard. Is there a way to do so, right now? Excluding the separate highscore lists on unaffiliated websites (eg. Kong)
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on January 10, 2012, 03:27:53 am
I don't really want top 50 back, but I do want a way to view the scores of the accounts with the highest scores, and a leaderboard. Is there a way to do so, right now? Excluding the separate highscore lists on unaffiliated websites (eg. Kong)
Aren't there ingame "Leaderboard" buttons in the Arena under each league?
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: furballdn on January 10, 2012, 03:47:16 am
I don't really want top 50 back, but I do want a way to view the scores of the accounts with the highest scores, and a leaderboard. Is there a way to do so, right now? Excluding the separate highscore lists on unaffiliated websites (eg. Kong)
Aren't there ingame "Leaderboard" buttons in the Arena under each league?
I'd much rather look at the leaderboard of arena decks than look at the same people who have 2million points.
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: Acsabi44 on January 10, 2012, 08:38:13 am
I don't really want top 50 back, but I do want a way to view the scores of the accounts with the highest scores, and a leaderboard. Is there a way to do so, right now? Excluding the separate highscore lists on unaffiliated websites (eg. Kong)
Aren't there ingame "Leaderboard" buttons in the Arena under each league?
But that's not the leaderboard of the top 50 socre, but the top decks in the current league in Arena. I think he is interested in the top scores.
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: Contrary on January 12, 2012, 12:54:58 am
I'd like to play T50 even if it wasn't possible to win rares for it. I want something harder than AI3 but 2x Draws and stuff like that piss me off.
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: Retribution on January 12, 2012, 02:17:48 am
I don't really want top 50 back, but I do want a way to view the scores of the accounts with the highest scores, and a leaderboard. Is there a way to do so, right now? Excluding the separate highscore lists on unaffiliated websites (eg. Kong)
Aren't there ingame "Leaderboard" buttons in the Arena under each league?
I'd much rather look at the leaderboard of arena decks than look at the same people who have 2million points.
To each their own. I never said take away the arena leaderboard.
Title: Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!!
Post by: Acsabi44 on January 12, 2012, 11:09:34 am
I'd like to play T50 even if it wasn't possible to win rares for it. I want something harder than AI3 but 2x Draws and stuff like that piss me off.
play bronze
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