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Elements the Game => Game Suggestions and Feedback => Topic started by: DarkStelth52 on January 09, 2012, 12:53:11 am
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It was a way of getting rares that didn't take a million hours... Plus, it gave you ideas for real decks, not crazy triple sign double draw decks. AND, it rewarded you for playing well!
Please bring the Top 50 Back!
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There's a reason rares are called rares. It gave you ideas for real decks? Don't you mean shard farms?
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There's a reason rares are called rares. It gave you ideas for real decks? Don't you mean shard farms?
The problem is, you have to play many consecutive hours for any chance at earning a rare. And even after you've won a ton of consecutive games, there is still a strong chance that you won't get a rare. Also, I remember getting a varied adrenaline/vampire deck idea from the top 50. I fail to see how the Top 50 really ruined this game, it actually made it exciting.
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T50 makes rares much easier to get and the actual opponents you face in T50 are easy compared with the bonuses they get in arena. Arena inspires more creative builds, such as triple marks that allow you to summon graboids powered off your mark in a mono time deck for example. You don't have to play for consecutive hours for getting a rare. Just a few consecutive wins. It's really not that hard. If rares were supposed to be easy to get, you might as well just buy them from the bazaar.
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There's a reason rares are called rares. It gave you ideas for real decks? Don't you mean shard farms?
The problem is, you have to play many consecutive hours for any chance at earning a rare. And even after you've won a ton of consecutive games, there is still a strong chance that you won't get a rare. Also, I remember getting a varied adrenaline/vampire deck idea from the top 50. I fail to see how the Top 50 really ruined this game, it actually made it exciting.
Arena >>> T50
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The thing about the Arena is this: In order to beat higher level players, you need a lot of upgraded cards. A LOT. And upgrading cards takes a lot of time. A LOT. And even if you create a good deck, chances are low you'll win 4 times in a row. And THEN you have to try a slot machine to get a chance at a rare. Seems way to time- consuming for me.
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The thing about the Arena is this: In order to beat higher level players, you need a lot of upgraded cards. A LOT. And upgrading cards takes a lot of time. A LOT. And even if you create a good deck, chances are low you'll win 4 times in a row. And THEN you have to try a slot machine to get a chance at a rare. Seems way to time- consuming for me.
If you don't like it, don't play the arena. Seriously. You can get rares from AI3 as well. Even an unupped deck can have good chances against bronze or silver. And besides, you don't even need rares to be a good player. Plenty of good decks don't have much rares in them.
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If even good decks don't have rares in them, then why make rares insanely hard to obtain? If they aren't even that useful?
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If even good decks don't have rares in them, then why make rares insanely hard to obtain? If they aren't even that useful?
It's a card game. Of course some cards will be easier to get, and some cards will be harder to get.
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True, but I still fail to see why some cards are soooo much harder to obtain than others. I mean, 100 electrum towards getting a dragon, or numerous hours towards getting a not-so-good rare? The gap is just too big .
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True, but I still fail to see why some cards are soooo much harder to obtain than others. I mean, 100 electrum towards getting a dragon, or numerous hours towards getting a not-so-good rare? The gap is just too big .
There called RARES for a reason. However, i do like the idea of bringing top50 back, but without the spins that made it a farm fest. I don't know about others, but i would still play a spin-less top50.
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If even good decks don't have rares in them, then why make rares insanely hard to obtain? If they aren't even that useful?
Some good decks have/rely on rares. Some good decks don't have/rely on rares. That is the meaning of furballdn's statement.
Rares are special, powerful cards. They take up special slots/bring special bonuses that cannot be matched easily. That is why they are rare.
You can get 100 electrum in a few minutes through AI-3. You can also get a rare in probably less than an hour with a decent bronze grinder.
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Zanz didn't like how farms made rares much less rare than they were supposed to be. Hence, T50 was removed and Arena was brought in. The Arena system still does allow farms to exist, but the competitive nature of the Arena and the fact that farms only last 2-5 losses before deactivating means that they are heavily discouraged.
End result: rare cards are rare (as they're meant to be), but there are still ways of winning them (via bonus rare spins or just regular spins, if an opponent's deck used rare cards).
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T50 was not a good system, for reasons already mentioned, however:
I don't think arena is much better of a system, what arena does is simply prolong the farming, not necessarily make rares rarer, it's just as easy to get rares as it was before, just more time-consuming
I do agree that farming for rares is still just as boring, and now it takes longer
some system should be introduced to make getting rares harder, and taking more time is not harder, just boring and annoying
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Just go play MtG. You only need to invest like 1000$ into booster packs to earn your well-deserved rares. Nothing compared to actually playing the game and trying to win rares.
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simply put no
And it doesnt take that long to get rares, just play the game...
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No but I wish something were we could see the 50 best score in the game
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It was a way of getting rares that didn't take a million hours... Plus, it gave you ideas for real decks, not crazy triple sign double draw decks. AND, it rewarded you for playing well!
Please bring the Top 50 Back!
Have you ever played pvp?
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The was a reason for T500 replacing T50. Moving on...
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And THEN you have to try a slot machine to get a chance at a rare.
Did you know that you can respin individual slots in the special spin? Notice there are blue circles with arrows in them corresponding to each of the three slots. You can re-spin each one up to three times (pic related: in the picture I've re-spun the left slot one time, and it can be re-spun up to two more times; the other two slots can be re-spun up to 3 times each)
You probably already knew that, but it's not like it's spelled out anywhere, and I know I missed it on my very first special spin. Maybe the programmers could arrange that the first time a new account gets a special spin, an info box pops up explaining this mechanic?
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You probably already knew that, but it's not like it's spelled out anywhere, and I know I missed it on my very first special spin. Maybe the programmers could arrange that the first time a new account gets a special spin, an info box pops up explaining this mechanic?
Sometimes you see some lines with the the text " click to re-spin" - don´t know exactly when - So the developer thought about that.
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I don't really want top 50 back, but I do want a way to view the scores of the accounts with the highest scores, and a leaderboard. Is there a way to do so, right now? Excluding the separate highscore lists on unaffiliated websites (eg. Kong)
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I don't really want top 50 back, but I do want a way to view the scores of the accounts with the highest scores, and a leaderboard. Is there a way to do so, right now? Excluding the separate highscore lists on unaffiliated websites (eg. Kong)
Aren't there ingame "Leaderboard" buttons in the Arena under each league?
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I don't really want top 50 back, but I do want a way to view the scores of the accounts with the highest scores, and a leaderboard. Is there a way to do so, right now? Excluding the separate highscore lists on unaffiliated websites (eg. Kong)
Aren't there ingame "Leaderboard" buttons in the Arena under each league?
I'd much rather look at the leaderboard of arena decks than look at the same people who have 2million points.
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I don't really want top 50 back, but I do want a way to view the scores of the accounts with the highest scores, and a leaderboard. Is there a way to do so, right now? Excluding the separate highscore lists on unaffiliated websites (eg. Kong)
Aren't there ingame "Leaderboard" buttons in the Arena under each league?
But that's not the leaderboard of the top 50 socre, but the top decks in the current league in Arena. I think he is interested in the top scores.
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I'd like to play T50 even if it wasn't possible to win rares for it. I want something harder than AI3 but 2x Draws and stuff like that piss me off.
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I don't really want top 50 back, but I do want a way to view the scores of the accounts with the highest scores, and a leaderboard. Is there a way to do so, right now? Excluding the separate highscore lists on unaffiliated websites (eg. Kong)
Aren't there ingame "Leaderboard" buttons in the Arena under each league?
I'd much rather look at the leaderboard of arena decks than look at the same people who have 2million points.
To each their own. I never said take away the arena leaderboard.
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I'd like to play T50 even if it wasn't possible to win rares for it. I want something harder than AI3 but 2x Draws and stuff like that piss me off.
play bronze