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BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35530.msg447127#msg447127
« on: January 09, 2012, 12:53:11 am »
It was a way of getting rares that didn't take a million hours... Plus, it gave you ideas for real decks, not crazy triple sign double draw decks. AND, it rewarded you for playing well!

Please bring the Top 50 Back!

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Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35530.msg447129#msg447129
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2012, 01:03:14 am »
There's a reason rares are called rares. It gave you ideas for real decks? Don't you mean shard farms?

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Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35530.msg447130#msg447130
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2012, 01:06:24 am »
There's a reason rares are called rares. It gave you ideas for real decks? Don't you mean shard farms?
The problem is, you have to play many consecutive hours for any chance at earning a rare. And even after you've won a ton of consecutive games, there is still a strong chance that you won't get a rare. Also, I remember getting a varied adrenaline/vampire deck idea from the top 50. I fail to see how the Top 50 really ruined this game, it actually made it exciting.

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Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35530.msg447131#msg447131
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2012, 01:08:49 am »
T50 makes rares much easier to get and the actual opponents you face in T50 are easy compared with the bonuses they get in arena. Arena inspires more creative builds, such as triple marks that allow you to summon graboids powered off your mark in a mono time deck for example. You don't have to play for consecutive hours for getting a rare. Just a few consecutive wins. It's really not that hard. If rares were supposed to be easy to get, you might as well just buy them from the bazaar.

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Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35530.msg447132#msg447132
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2012, 01:09:41 am »
There's a reason rares are called rares. It gave you ideas for real decks? Don't you mean shard farms?
The problem is, you have to play many consecutive hours for any chance at earning a rare. And even after you've won a ton of consecutive games, there is still a strong chance that you won't get a rare. Also, I remember getting a varied adrenaline/vampire deck idea from the top 50. I fail to see how the Top 50 really ruined this game, it actually made it exciting.



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Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35530.msg447136#msg447136
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2012, 01:16:15 am »
The thing about the Arena is this: In order to beat higher level players, you need a lot of upgraded cards. A LOT. And upgrading cards takes a lot of time. A LOT. And even if you create a good deck, chances are low you'll win 4 times in a row. And THEN you have to try a slot machine to get a chance at a rare. Seems way to time- consuming for me.

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Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35530.msg447138#msg447138
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2012, 01:19:04 am »
The thing about the Arena is this: In order to beat higher level players, you need a lot of upgraded cards. A LOT. And upgrading cards takes a lot of time. A LOT. And even if you create a good deck, chances are low you'll win 4 times in a row. And THEN you have to try a slot machine to get a chance at a rare. Seems way to time- consuming for me.
If you don't like it, don't play the arena. Seriously. You can get rares from AI3 as well. Even an unupped deck can have good chances against bronze or silver. And besides, you don't even need rares to be a good player. Plenty of good decks don't have much rares in them.

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Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35530.msg447142#msg447142
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2012, 01:20:59 am »
If even good decks don't have rares in them, then why make rares insanely hard to obtain? If they aren't even that useful?

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Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35530.msg447144#msg447144
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2012, 01:21:49 am »
If even good decks don't have rares in them, then why make rares insanely hard to obtain? If they aren't even that useful?
It's a card game. Of course some cards will be easier to get, and some cards will be harder to get.

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Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35530.msg447146#msg447146
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2012, 01:24:13 am »
True, but I still fail to see why some cards are soooo much harder to obtain than others. I mean, 100 electrum towards getting a dragon, or numerous hours towards getting a not-so-good rare? The gap is just too big .

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Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35530.msg447156#msg447156
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2012, 01:53:34 am »
True, but I still fail to see why some cards are soooo much harder to obtain than others. I mean, 100 electrum towards getting a dragon, or numerous hours towards getting a not-so-good rare? The gap is just too big .
There called RARES for a reason. However, i do like the idea of bringing top50 back, but without the spins that made it a farm fest. I don't know  about others, but i would still play a spin-less top50.
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Re: BRING THE TOP 50 BACK!!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35530.msg447157#msg447157
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2012, 01:55:46 am »
If even good decks don't have rares in them, then why make rares insanely hard to obtain? If they aren't even that useful?
Some good decks have/rely on rares. Some good decks don't have/rely on rares. That is the meaning of furballdn's statement.

Rares are special, powerful cards. They take up special slots/bring special bonuses that cannot be matched easily. That is why they are rare.

You can get 100 electrum in a few minutes through AI-3. You can also get a rare in probably less than an hour with a decent bronze grinder.
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