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A option to disable card upgrade for a game. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12785.msg161972#msg161972
« on: September 20, 2010, 10:29:44 pm »
I see card upgrading as little more then a lame way of getting people to play more, that contributes nothing to the fun of the game,  but putting that aside...

Problem: Card upgrades make it complicated to find someone to play on a reasonably level playing field.

Solution:

A option to downgrade all your cards for a single match. Someone just started and has no upgraded cards, verses someone whos played awhile and has alot? No problem, both of you click the downgrade card buttons and you can play a more even match (new player is still going to have some difficulty of course)

Or, want to play a random PVP match, but without upgraded cards since you only have say, 1? No problem, just select that option and any and all upgrade cards you have will be temporarily downgraded for the match.

Otherwise one might find trouble getting a game sometimes, and it would be unfair to ask players to have two versions of every deck/card. So this would benefit both people who have alot of upgraded cards, and few/none of them.

Problem two: Card upgrading makes exchanging deck save code much more limited.

Solution:

On a similar note, deck save code could substitute a un-upgraded card for a upgraded card if you only have the un-upgraded version and automatically use a upgrade if available, if the code asks for a un-upgraded version. That way someone can post a deck code and more people can use it, no matter what they have for upgraded cards.


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Re: A option to disable card upgrade for a game. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12785.msg161984#msg161984
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2010, 10:41:00 pm »
Or the player using the upgraded cards could just recreate their deck using unupped cards; I find it hard to believe that if a person was able to get those upped cards that they would then find themselves in a situation where they couldn't gain access to their unupped equivalents.  The only exception to this would be nymphs, but it's generally a bad idea to upgrade them to begin with...
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Re: A option to disable card upgrade for a game. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12785.msg161993#msg161993
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2010, 10:51:27 pm »
As I said  in my first post, no one should be asked to get two versions of each card, it's both needless additional expense, and hassle of more decks to keep track of/juggle.

 Anyway, its clear people aren't doing that, so that "solution", if you can even call it such, is not going to happen.

Plus, that doesn't even touch the issue of deck codes.

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Re: A option to disable card upgrade for a game. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12785.msg161994#msg161994
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2010, 10:53:08 pm »
PVP1 is already an option, as both players' upgraded cards are all down-graded.
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Re: A option to disable card upgrade for a game. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12785.msg162001#msg162001
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2010, 10:55:34 pm »
Only real reason for a downgrade button is rares and nymphs.
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Re: A option to disable card upgrade for a game. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12785.msg162006#msg162006
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2010, 11:02:05 pm »
@Dragoon1140
You mean the random pvp thing? What about games where your wanting to play a friendly game with someone specific, please extend that random PVP down-grade code to specific PVP games as a option then please.

@teffy
Rares are enough on their own. Some people might struggle with the cost of multiple versions of every card "not cost much" is relative.

Anyway, having to juggle two versions of each deck is more hassle players should not have to deal with.

Neither of these replies address the issue of deck save codes.

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Re: A option to disable card upgrade for a game. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12785.msg162078#msg162078
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2010, 12:21:42 am »
Its useful, but not needed so much at the moment. People can just make their own unupped decks, and the more experienced and tougher opponents will most likely already have their own upped decks. =/

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Re: A option to disable card upgrade for a game. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12785.msg162169#msg162169
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2010, 02:19:33 am »
I think I made a similar suggestion that has a lot of support.  Check it out and see if it's the kind of thing that would work for you:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10129.0.html

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Re: A option to disable card upgrade for a game. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12785.msg162171#msg162171
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2010, 02:24:31 am »
This has been suggested a few times, but they're still probably working on other stuff. I'm sure they'll implement this eventually.

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Re: A option to disable card upgrade for a game. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12785.msg162247#msg162247
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2010, 06:29:58 am »
This has been suggested a few times, but they're still probably working on other stuff. I'm sure they'll implement this eventually.
By they, you mean Zanzarino?

Also, yes, I'd like to see more PvP modes.

About the code issue. That just won't happen. Upped cards are sometimes totally different than unupped cards (IE: Chaos Seed - Chaos Power). Plus, if you see a great upped deck and use it unupped it'll most likely not be so good, as the unupped version could probably be tweaked more (the deck was made to be use upped, after all)
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