20 wins in a row = spin for a nymph

[timtwins]

I think thats a great idea.  It would be really cool if you could pick it like the weapon one too.

[nilsieboy]

way to easy but it'd be interesting to farm AI3 for something else then score

[trozman]

Defeat every False God and you will be rewarded with a nymph or something?

I second that awesome motion.

I third that motion. But I would say - you have to do it all one after the other. (That way it can be for many nymphs because it'd be much harder - if you lose just one, you break the chain and have to start over.)

That's pretty/very hard, so I'm not sure if it'd be more fair that the Quest will tell you what the order of the FGs are - I'm thinking it may be too easy. Maybe if the quest told you what every OTHER FG would be? So 10 of them you have to defeat blind (probably with some rainbow) and 10 of them you can customize a deck for?

[zorzz]

umm, you only get 1 nymph from this quest, you only complete this quest 1 time. 1 nymph for beating every false god is a good reward, no matter how fast you can do it.
It's the same way the rare weapon is rewarded after reaching the 500 score goal

This mean that just to change nymph, one needs to reset/create new account
Sounds like a bad idea.

Nymphs either should become accessible or should stay "impossible to get" as they are now(chance to win at oracle is negligible, and not all people like to play pvp especially thanks to timezones)

[TimerClock14]

umm, you only get 1 nymph from this quest, you only complete this quest 1 time. 1 nymph for beating every false god is a good reward, no matter how fast you can do it.
It's the same way the rare weapon is rewarded after reaching the 500 score goal

This mean that just to change nymph, one needs to reset/create new account
Sounds like a bad idea.

Nymphs either should become accessible or should stay "impossible to get" as they are now(chance to win at oracle is negligible, and not all people like to play pvp especially thanks to timezones)

Remember you can spin the oracle once a day, a member here, Kael Hate, has spun the oracle more times than I can count, and he has almost 6 of every nymph. With this quest, you'd only get a choice of 1 out of the 12. once

Defeat every False God and you will be rewarded with a nymph or something?

I second that awesome motion.

I third that motion. But I would say - you have to do it all one after the other. (That way it can be for many nymphs because it'd be much harder - if you lose just one, you break the chain and have to start over.)

That's pretty/very hard, so I'm not sure if it'd be more fair that the Quest will tell you what the order of the FGs are - I'm thinking it may be too easy. Maybe if the quest told you what every OTHER FG would be? So 10 of them you have to defeat blind (probably with some rainbow) and 10 of them you can customize a deck for?

Keep in mind the learning curve, people. Remember when you got the 150 score quest and you thought it was impossible? Then seeing the 500 score quest? What would you do if right after the 500 score quest, you got another quest telling you to defeat every false god and with a 100% win rate, and no breaks in between. That's nearly impossible for someone who just finished the 500 score quest not to mention hard. They would need to upgrade to a full-on CCYB, and even that deck can't beat every false god. There aren't that many decks out there that can beat every single false god. That's how the game was designed too. If you look closely, every card, every deck type, they all have strategies that can overcome it. Balance is the key here.

[RootRanger]

The chance at winning a nymph is about 4%, I think. Something like that. Which means that, for a lot of people, the FG-nymph will be the only one they get for a while. Since elements has a metagame, the strength of a certain card fluctuates. Which means that the best nymph at one point in the game would not be the best nymph at another point in the game. This could cause people to make a new account if they want a different nymph.

Also, the whole idea behind nymphs is that there is an even chance at winning them for almost everyone (keep in mind that a very small portion of elements players enter tournaments). They are supposed to be distributed evenly between most people.

[zorzz]

Remember you can spin the oracle once a day, a member here, Kael Hate, has spun the oracle more times than I can count, and he has almost 6 of every nymph.

Actually chance to win nymph through oracle in 1.26  is lower than before for the following reasons:

- Schrödinger's cat
- Soul Catcher
- Crusader
- Silence
- Sky Blitz
- Cloak
- Catapult

With each new card added to elements, chance to win a nymph only decreases.

[TimerClock14]

Remember you can spin the oracle once a day, a member here, Kael Hate, has spun the oracle more times than I can count, and he has almost 6 of every nymph.

Actually chance to win nymph through oracle in 1.26  is lower than before for the following reasons:

- Schrödinger's cat
- Soul Catcher
- Crusader
- Silence
- Sky Blitz
- Cloak
- Catapult

With each new card added to elements, chance to win a nymph only decreases.

It matters not. Even if you had as little as a 1% chance of winning a nymph, spinning it 365 days would, statistically, get you 3.65 (~4) nymphs.

[RootRanger]

On average, yes. But, on average, half the people are below average, Timer.

Say there is a 20% chance to win a nymph each time, and you have 5 chances to win. Sure, the average amount won is 1. But only 67% of the people end up with one. 33% of the people get nothing.

[TimerClock14]

On average, yes. But, on average, half the people are below average, Timer.

Say there is a 20% chance to win a nymph each time, and you have 5 chances to win. Sure, the average amount won is 1. But only 67% of the people end up with one. 33% of the people get nothing.

I'm not sure what you are trying to get at with the second part.
but, half are below average, the other half is above average. It's how the world works.
and once again, it matters not. Because we are really not comparing anything, the idea is that on top of what you may win from the oracle, you will have another nymph that you gained through skill, effort, and dedication, not sheer luck. Most people will find it rather fitting to be able to pick 1 of the rarest cards in the game as a reward for their efforts. But let's face it, one single nymph isn't all that useful. Yes, you can stick it into a deck for whatever reason be it supportive or something else, but that still doesn't change the fact that the usefulness of a single nymph isn't worth having to defeat every single FG one gritty battle at a time and no breaks allowed. So what if every elements player ends up with at least one nymph by the time they crack 1k score? By then, it will be as normal as someone winning a rare weapon for the 500 score quest.

[RootRanger]

What I'm saying is that people will make new accounts as the strength of a certain nymph changes. For example, say that someone does not have an X nymph. Because a few new cards came out and the metagame shifted, the X nymph became very powerful. Some of the people without an X nymph (a lot of the people because many have not won that certain nymph from the spins) will create a new account for a surefire way to obtain an X nymph. This gives an advantage to people who make a new account for that nymph and use it.

So why is this bad? Because it increases grinding to a level higher than intended. Players will have to grind to get that new powerful nymph, and the players who do not do that excessive grinding on an alternate account will be at a disadvantage. Currently, however, almost anyone can afford a viable unupped deck. Beating a FG requires more grinding.

The second part of my previous post was to show an example of how a lot of people can be severely below average with luck. The time required for the math in the situation you posted was unnecessarily excessive.

[Glitch]

Why do people want nymphs so badly?

They aren't really that useful.  Gravity nymph is... maybe.