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Re: Rare Card Overflow Recycling - Alternative To Card Trading https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8143.msg510816#msg510816
« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2012, 07:46:40 am »
It seems to be a good idea; one exchange per day is okay.

Did you suggest that in an exchange a random rare card was won but, with a 100% winning rate? Because, noone would appreciate an opportunity where one loses 6 rares for a chance of winning, I suppose.

Should the possible rares include Nymphs and Marks too (with a really low chance of course)? - If not, perhaps there should be a chance for winning an upgraded rare (even if you exchanged unupgraded cards). Alternatively, only exchanging upgraded rares give you a chance for Nymphs and Marks? Other opinions about this?

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Re: Rare Card Overflow Recycling - Alternative To Card Trading https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8143.msg510819#msg510819
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2012, 08:00:34 am »
It seems to be a good idea; one exchange per day is okay.

Did you suggest that in an exchange a random rare card was won but, with a 100% winning rate? Because, noone would appreciate an opportunity where one loses 6 rares for a chance of winning, I suppose.

Should the possible rares include Nymphs and Marks too (with a really low chance of course)? - If not, perhaps there should be a chance for winning an upgraded rare (even if you exchanged unupgraded cards). Alternatively, only exchanging upgraded rares give you a chance for Nymphs and Marks? Other opinions about this?



No one wants to lose 6 rares for only 800 electrum either :/

About nymphs/marks, ultra-rares should stay ultra-rare.

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Re: Rare Card Overflow Recycling - Alternative To Card Trading https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8143.msg510960#msg510960
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2012, 05:16:50 pm »
It seems to be a good idea; one exchange per day is okay.

Did you suggest that in an exchange a random rare card was won but, with a 100% winning rate? Because, noone would appreciate an opportunity where one loses 6 rares for a chance of winning, I suppose.

Should the possible rares include Nymphs and Marks too (with a really low chance of course)? - If not, perhaps there should be a chance for winning an upgraded rare (even if you exchanged unupgraded cards). Alternatively, only exchanging upgraded rares give you a chance for Nymphs and Marks? Other opinions about this?



No one wants to lose 6 rares for only 800 electrum either :/

About nymphs/marks, ultra-rares should stay ultra-rare.
Yes, obviously it should be a guaranteed win rate for a new rare.
I also agree, the level of rarity on various rares should be maintained.
Its ultimately up to Zanz, but I think that at the very least you should only be able to get an ultra-rare if you sacrifice ultra-rares. E.g. to get a new nymph you would have to sacrifice 6 nymphs... or just leave nymphs and marks out altogether. (There should be some incentive to visit oracle daily and play in tournaments after all)
I mainly just want a way to, for instance, to trade in the bunch of owl's eyes I seem to get ad-nauseum for say, a chance at a new pulverizer, or maybe even a shard.
As for getting upgraded cards, I would think that if you sacrifice 6 upped cards your spin should give an upped rare. If you sacrifice unupped cards, you get an unupped rare.
A feature like this will be more important as more rares get added to the game.
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Re: Rare Card Overflow Recycling - Alternative To Card Trading https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8143.msg510970#msg510970
« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2012, 05:45:57 pm »
as almost always i agree with odin. who has 6 nymphs of a kind anyway? if this was added, i would totally sac 6 of my 20 sods.

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Re: Rare Card Overflow Recycling - Alternative To Card Trading https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8143.msg512713#msg512713
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2012, 04:26:29 am »
What about starting off with one of each weapon in a pool, and a player trades two rares into the pool in order to get one random rare out?  For example, if you had a 13th Pharaoh and 13th Druidic Staff, you could drop those in and randomly pull out a Discord.  Later another player might drop in an Owl's Eye and Miracle, and pull out the Pharaoh. 

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Re: Rare Card Overflow Recycling - Alternative To Card Trading https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8143.msg512715#msg512715
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2012, 04:37:54 am »
What about starting off with one of each weapon in a pool, and a player trades two rares into the pool in order to get one random rare out?  For example, if you had a 13th Pharaoh and 13th Druidic Staff, you could drop those in and randomly pull out a Discord.  Later another player might drop in an Owl's Eye and Miracle, and pull out the Pharaoh.
This is actually a nice way to subvert the exploit of alt accounting, assuming enough people drop rares in. I like it. :)

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Re: Rare Card Overflow Recycling - Alternative To Card Trading https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8143.msg512740#msg512740
« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2012, 07:02:53 am »
but that means that half the time you would trade in 2 not rare rares and get out the same one. the pool would never give you the cards you want because chances are those are the ones everyone wants.

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Re: Rare Card Overflow Recycling - Alternative To Card Trading https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8143.msg512762#msg512762
« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2012, 09:13:30 am »
I like the idea of trading a set of 6 for a special spin. One idea: set of upgraded gives you upgraded spin. I also don't mind the idea of nymphs (but not marks) being on the spin, but with oracle chances (ie if a nymph is picked, there is a 50% chance it is rechosen).
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Re: Rare Card Overflow Recycling - Alternative To Card Trading https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8143.msg512844#msg512844
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2012, 05:23:56 pm »
no nymphs on spin. ultra rares stay ultra rare.

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Re: Rare Card Overflow Recycling - Alternative To Card Trading https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8143.msg513175#msg513175
« Reply #45 on: June 20, 2012, 03:39:37 pm »
I don't think people who got 12 of one rare card really are gonna do this and have a big chance to get another card they allready have

I just sell anything i got more than 6 of
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Re: Rare Card Overflow Recycling - Alternative To Card Trading https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8143.msg513236#msg513236
« Reply #46 on: June 20, 2012, 07:26:05 pm »
I don't think people who got 12 of one rare card really are gonna do this and have a big chance to get another card they allready have

I just sell anything i got more than 6 of

That's why I suggest putting nymphs on the spin. Bad odds, but the chance still there. Maybe only once a week as well?
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Re: Rare Card Overflow Recycling - Alternative To Card Trading https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8143.msg513397#msg513397
« Reply #47 on: June 21, 2012, 06:37:15 am »
I don't think people who got 12 of one rare card really are gonna do this and have a big chance to get another card they allready have

I just sell anything i got more than 6 of

That's why I suggest putting nymphs on the spin. Bad odds, but the chance still there. Maybe only once a week as well?
You know, I think it would be more fun to just be able to get them from oracle only
I know there will be much players who got like 50 copies of each rares (it would make getting a nymph more easily)
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