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New rules for deck categorizing on this forum https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3803.msg36040#msg36040
« on: March 10, 2010, 08:08:32 am »
Here are the new rules for deck categorizing on this forum. These rules have been written on the forum section description for a while now but now it's time to make them official.

Mono-deck: Cards from only 1 element (and "Other"). Can use any mark.
Duo- and Trio-deck: Cards from 2 or 3 elements (and "Other"). Can use any mark.
Rainbow deck: Cards from 4 or more elements


Apart from being very simple and easy to understand, The main reason why this system is better than anything else out there is that it makes the most sense when having mono-deck events. Using mono-decks and this system, each non-'other' card can only be used by a mono deck of that element. You can't go around picking cards from other elements which is what being a mono is all about.

If we let cards like Flying weapon to be used by all elements, Air will be in HUGE disadvantage because we just took away one of it's better cards by letting everyone use it. This is where the old system failed.

When posting decks on the forum or participating on the events, please use these rules.

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Re: New rules for deck categorizing on this forum https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3803.msg36058#msg36058
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2010, 10:16:44 am »
I agree completely with this definition of mono-decks. Animate Weapon is technically from the air set, even though it can use any quantum. The key here, is the word "set".  No one can argue that Animate Weapon is a fire card, and it is debatable (I think very loosely.) that it's an other card. In the end it comes from the air set, and is an air card. Plus, you're right, it is a huge disadvantage to one element if every other element can use it's cards.

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Re: New rules for deck categorizing on this forum https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3803.msg36059#msg36059
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2010, 10:18:46 am »
[nitpick]

Shouldn't it read like this?

Duo- and Trio-deck: Cards from 2 and 3 elements, respectively (and "Other")

[/nitpick]

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Re: New rules for deck categorizing on this forum https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3803.msg36435#msg36435
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2010, 04:01:44 am »
So let's you have a trio deck (let's use my time/earth/aether). It has time towers, 3x aether towers, and mark of earth. It has 6x quicksands from earth and 2x TU from aether (in one version). It has eternities, anubii, silurian dragons, and *flying weapons*.

It's now a rainbow deck? Even though it only uses 3 types of quanta, no quantum towers, and no novas? And in reality it really only makes a lot of use with time; earth and aether are simply support elements?

>_<. I'm just wondering if the deck should really be moved to rainbow, or...

(I'd be fine if it was called a quad deck. But a rainbow? I'm thinking there's more than 4 colors in a rainbow...)

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Re: New rules for deck categorizing on this forum https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3803.msg36512#msg36512
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2010, 06:59:16 am »
I agree with Puppy, with this categorizing we might need a quad decks section.
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Re: New rules for deck categorizing on this forum https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3803.msg36601#msg36601
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2010, 03:54:42 pm »
[nitpick]

Shouldn't it read like this?

Duo- and Trio-deck: Cards from 2 and 3 elements, respectively (and "Other")

[/nitpick]
Um.. I don't know but that sounds a bit weird to me. How can you have both 2 and 3? And what is this "respectively"?


So let's you have a trio deck (let's use my time/earth/aether). It has time towers, 3x aether towers, and mark of earth. It has 6x quicksands from earth and 2x TU from aether (in one version). It has eternities, anubii, silurian dragons, and *flying weapons*.

It's now a rainbow deck? Even though it only uses 3 types of quanta, no quantum towers, and no novas? And in reality it really only makes a lot of use with time; earth and aether are simply support elements?

Yes. It has cards from 4 different elements, therefore it's a rainbow. What cards it has is irrelevant.


I'm thinking there's more than 4 colors in a rainbow...
How many then? 5? 6? It's generally thought that a real life rainbow has 7 different colors. Are you saying a deck with 6 different elements should not be a rainbow?

"Rainbow" is just a term used in CCG's when you have cards from multiple different "sets". It doesn't really have to do anything with real life rainbows.


I agree with Puppy, with this categorizing we might need a quad decks section.
Quad deck section is not needed because there are only a handful of "quad decks" that actually work.

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Re: New rules for deck categorizing on this forum https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3803.msg36618#msg36618
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2010, 05:25:36 pm »
Quad decks? Just no. Trio decks hardly work already. I'd be surprised if you don't take Quantum Pillars for a deck with four elements. But really, a deck with four elements is extremely unwise; either go with one or two or go with all of them.
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Re: New rules for deck categorizing on this forum https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3803.msg36691#msg36691
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2010, 07:59:53 pm »
Quad decks? Just no. Trio decks hardly work already. I'd be surprised if you don't take Quantum Pillars for a deck with four elements. But really, a deck with four elements is extremely unwise; either go with one or two or go with all of them.
Check out the deck puppy is talking about. By the new definition it is a quad deck. Aaaaaand he says it's working..
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Re: New rules for deck categorizing on this forum https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3803.msg36704#msg36704
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2010, 08:12:45 pm »
[nitpick]

Shouldn't it read like this?

Duo- and Trio-deck: Cards from 2 and 3 elements, respectively (and "Other")

[/nitpick]
Um.. I don't know but that sounds a bit weird to me. How can you have both 2 and 3? And what is this "respectively"?


Since you are pairing up duo and trio in one section you should put the and (even though its implied duo is 2 and trio is 3) the respectively means that the duo goes with the 2 and the trio goes with the 3.

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Re: New rules for deck categorizing on this forum https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3803.msg36782#msg36782
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2010, 10:33:07 pm »
Quad decks? Just no. Trio decks hardly work already. I'd be surprised if you don't take Quantum Pillars for a deck with four elements. But really, a deck with four elements is extremely unwise; either go with one or two or go with all of them.
Check out the deck puppy is talking about. By the new definition it is a quad deck. Aaaaaand he says it's working..
The definition says that anything utilizing more than 3 elements is a rainbow deck. This does not mean that it necessarily uses all quanta, or even 4 or more types of quanta. The point is that it uses cards from more than 3 different elements, which makes it a Rainbow type.
Furthermore, adding quad decks means you should add quint decks, and sext decks, and sept decks, and oct decks, and so on until a rainbow deck uses all 12 elements. This is not only unnecessary, it also clogs up the forums and splitting threads about basically the same deck, just because I use a Permafrost shield when you use a Fire Shield.
The definition of decks is given, Rainbows are 4+ different element cards. Remember, these definitions are not only used for making and posting cards, they are also used for tourneys and such, requiring strict adherence to the rules.
I agree, however, that Animate Weapon, Improved Blessing, and such make adhering to the rules hard to do, since Puppy's deck really should be categorized as a trio deck, but that is only basing it on the quanta used. When thinking about this, you have to think differently from games like MtG, where only about .001% of cards have ever been a included in a color without requiring that color in its CC

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Re: New rules for deck categorizing on this forum https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3803.msg36798#msg36798
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2010, 11:09:25 pm »
[nitpick]

Shouldn't it read like this?

Duo- and Trio-deck: Cards from 2 and 3 elements, respectively (and "Other")

[/nitpick]
Um.. I don't know but that sounds a bit weird to me. How can you have both 2 and 3? And what is this "respectively"?


Since you are pairing up duo and trio in one section you should put the and (even though its implied duo is 2 and trio is 3) the respectively means that the duo goes with the 2 and the trio goes with the 3.
Hmm.. interesting.

I'm not a native English speaker so this might be different in my language but to me it sounds really weird if you use "and" instead of "or" because all those decks use either 2 OR 3 elements, not 2 AND 3. That "respectively" on the other hand sounds like "fancy talk" or something. :) I'm willing to bet it would be confusing to non-native speakers like myself, therefore a bad idea.


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Re: New rules for deck categorizing on this forum https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3803.msg36901#msg36901
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2010, 01:37:47 am »
Actually, ScaredGirl's version is correct. 'Duo- and trio-deck' is a single subject.
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