Elements Mafia 78 - by serprex

[shockcannon]

LOL. these last two pages have been great. I have now identified my leader with 99.9% accuracy.

@my leader:
lynch kaempf for free win

[kaempfer13]

Then that's a really shit claim because you're just copying the only reported target.

just ftr, Mw broadcast his targeting intention a long time ago.

[Linkcat]

Ftr, I was taking the perspective of a complete outsider when calculating (answering the question "Given that leaders didnt recruit the same person, what are the odds they both recruited a towny").

Except that wasn't the question and you're not an outsider, nor did you specify such in your answer. I would expect you to be more thorough.

The things you said about MW I've been thinking this whole time about you, those recruits fit your playstyle even better (dont understand the crumb though, pls elaborate). I also wouldnt completely discount the possibility of Oa recruiting shock, they had a good game together before.

My playstyle in general? Absolutely not. My playstyle this game? I may have trolled the shit out of it, but I'm still FGO and wouldn't throw that hard as a leader, even with meme picks I would have played seriously as soon as you voted for me and put me on the wire, not wait until the last few hours where there's a much lower chance to save myself.

The crumb is him laying out his targets disguising them as mine, he can call back to it endgame and it would be pretty convincing.

[serprex]

24h extension (2) - andretimpa, kaempfer13

You know, i pretty much always choose that option when available. Not sure if it (or activity modkills for that matter) actually apply this game though, as the usual secondary rules post is completely missing this game.

I decided to build hype & let rules surprise people

I eventually posted them. You can read them here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-78-by-serprex/msg1307087/#msg1307087

I have since clarified rules:

• read accuracy, http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-78-by-serprex/msg1307128/#msg1307128
• early end of day voting, http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-78-by-serprex/msg1307138/#msg1307138
• amending early end of day voting, http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-78-by-serprex/msg1307143/#msg1307143
• alignment of player when dying by being simultaneously recruited during night, http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-78-by-serprex/msg1307164/#msg1307164
• safe speed, http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-78-by-serprex/msg1307241/#msg1307241
• bonus lynch on least active player, http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-78-by-serprex/msg1307249/#msg1307249

There is no 24h extension rule. But you're all free to vote for whatever policies you choose

World Peace (1) - serprex

[kaempfer13]

You are defintely the person with the softest spot for shock (he would be permabanned on most sites) and I do recall you also protecting him for mere lols in the past ingame as well. W3 being midrange, as you assessed, is actually a fairly reasonable target for anyone, even if he declined a bit over time.

As for the "crumb", shock and w3 being recruits is so blatantly obvious and also w3 wont contribute. So he could only be signalling shock or andre there, which seems fairly low impact for a crumb (and also those are the people i too thought were recruited, no leadership required)

World Peace (2) - serprex, kaempfer13 (pls actually enforce this rule)

[MasterWalks]

The crumb is him laying out his targets disguising them as mine, he can call back to it endgame and it would be pretty convincing.

GL convincing anyone, including me, that I am capable of thinking that far ahead.

[RootRanger]

See the problem here, or at least one of the problems here, is that Linkcat being leader and sending in his recruit too late is something that makes sense given the evidence. We have exactly one known cultist and one nightkill, so that's 3 total targets between the 2 leaders over 2 nights. There's a missing cultist, because a leader either missed a deadline or fizzled.

If another player dropped a bombshell result that there's a 2nd cultist out there aside from shock, it would change things, but that hasn't happened.

Will respond more when I get home if it seems necessary but my vote is staying on Linkcat.

[Linkcat]

Then that's a really shit claim because you're just copying the only reported target.

just ftr, Mw broadcast his targeting intention a long time ago.

His intention, yes.

So Mobian is dead then?
Him just ragequitting when i identify him as scum is consistent with his previous game. Sorry mate! Does make me feel fairly confident though, especially if MW turns up cultist (not like we would get a definitive reveal before game end   ).

Target me tonight. I double dog dare u.

I'm finna target Root. If he comes up town, I'm voting him tomorrow. If he comes up cult I vote link.

Yet he voted me over Root, even though he supposedly got a town result.

Did anyone target Root?
Only respond if he came back town.

Did anyone target Kae?
Only respond if he came back cultist

Did anyone target shock?
Respond either way

He positioned himself for a Root cult claim, so he could be checking to see if anyone would have a cc and then claim early for cred. If he actually had a town result, anyone responding positively to this would put his claim in question as we see now. Bad play as town.

I’ll provide you with some info, though. Root is town.

So this means root is townie or leader right? Just not cultist.
Cool, solved game. Link and Root leaders. We lynch Link tonight Root next night and it's GG start up the next one

Then he pretends to not know Root's result. Keeping himself open for a different claim.

@MW same offer

Why do I want you to play seriously? This is way more entertaining. Besides, I can't offer any new information

He finally gives in to the slightest pressure, but in a vague way.

This kind of waffling fits his scum game more. In short, this is the worst claim in the history of claims, maybe ever.

[Linkcat]

See the problem here, or at least one of the problems here, is that Linkcat being leader and sending in his recruit too late is something that makes sense given the evidence. We have exactly one known cultist and one nightkill, so that's 3 total targets between the 2 leaders over 2 nights. There's a missing cultist, because a leader either missed a deadline or fizzled.

If another player dropped a bombshell result that there's a 2nd cultist out there aside from shock, it would change things, but that hasn't happened.

Will respond more when I get home if it seems necessary but my vote is staying on Linkcat.

Completely ignoring the much more likely scenario that nobody happened to target the last cultist. How about we get the rest of you to claim and see how many more overlap?

[kaempfer13]

Yet he voted me over Root, even though he supposedly got a town result.

Did anyone target Root?
Only respond if he came back town.

Did anyone target Kae?
Only respond if he came back cultist

Did anyone target shock?
Respond either way

He positioned himself for a Root cult claim, so he could be checking to see if anyone would have a cc and then claim early for cred. If he actually had a town result, anyone responding positively to this would put his claim in question as we see now. Bad play as town.

I’ll provide you with some info, though. Root is town.

So this means root is townie or leader right? Just not cultist.
Cool, solved game. Link and Root leaders. We lynch Link tonight Root next night and it's GG start up the next one

Ngl, these put together like that are pretty damning. Good catch.

[RootRanger]

If I'd found a new cultist I would have spoken up by now.

[MasterWalks]

I requested someone check root to see if anyone reported cultist, in which I could counterclaim and we would've found another cultist. Yea kinda bad in hindsight, but I've done something similar nearly every game (and got called out for it nearly every game). The shock and Kae requests were legit, I actually want to know if kae is cultist and I want to know if shock is telling the truth. Kae flipping cultist would shatter my world view of this game.

I'm voting you over root because you've already done the work and convinced everyone you're leader. I tried convincing people to lynch Root a while ago, kae is the only response to it and he only kinda agrees.
This 180° (maybe 360°) turn on your play style is the worst thing you could've done. If you stayed shitposting to the very end, I'd probably eod switch to Root, but you're further convincing my scumread on you.

If we lynch you in 30 minutes, I'm full blown slathering root in lynch juice until he's soaked next day.