Elements Mafia 78 - by serprex

[andretimpa]

Also tbh, the only reason I voted that there are no leaders is that I prefer I think that is more likely than someone recruiting shock and afk!w3 (that's wild even for MW)

[Linkcat]

Linkcat (2) - RootRanger, kaempfer13
RootRanger (1) - Linkcat
andretimpa (1) - shockcannon

Is this the most recent tally?

@Link After thinking through the different scenarios I kept returning to "Why did Link defend Oa so much?" It seems to me no one was buying kae's argument anyways

If you look through my logic you'll see that it's because I was forced to believe he was a cultist, with the only other somewhat viable option being Oa recruiting MW, which I disregarded because of my non leader read on Oa. However, I've thought about that more since I ran through those worlds yesterday. The basis for my non leader read on Oa is that he was the first to claim his N1 check. However, if he actually is a leader and was paying enough attention to the game, it can make sense. At the time he claimed, he knew that two of the four recruits were on w3, and one was probably on shock. If shock was recruited by the other leader (MW), then the only other recruit would be Oa's N1 target MW, so all he would have to do is pick any other member and say they were town, and he'd be guaranteed to be right. Choosing the same person that MW talked about could also be his way of crumbing. That leaves his N2 target as his only cultist, which could be either andre or Root, probably andre since he hasn't been doing much today and you and Root would be more likely to go ahead and lynch me. With how bad a N1 Oa target is, this world is looking better and better.

Oa - > w3, MW
MW - > shock, w3     OA +1, shock

[Linkcat]

Looks like we got the whole crew online now. Oa, if you're not a leader, go and put your vote on no leaders.

[kaempfer13]

@Link, thoughts about MW sticking to his scumreads without hesitation after supposedly getting recruited?

[serprex]

Looks like we got the whole crew online now. Oa, if you're not a leader, go and put your vote on no leaders.

Minus cool64kid

[kaempfer13]

oh nvm, he was leader in that theory

[Linkcat]

@Link, thoughts about MW sticking to his scumreads without hesitation after supposedly getting recruited?

In the worlds where he was targeted N1, it would have to be by Oa. Either he'd be a leader and would have no reason to change, or I would be the other leader which I obviously don't think is the case.

Oa - > w3, MW
Link - > shock, w3     OA +1, LINK shock +1

Oa - > w3, MW
MW - > shock, w3     OA +1, shock

(If coolkid recruited MW then just kill me, I guess.)

[Linkcat]

Summary of worlds

MW - > w3, Oa
Link - > shock, w3     LINK shock +1

MW - > w3, Oa
Oa - > shock, w3     OA shock +1

Not very likely

Andre - > w3, Oa
Link - > shock, w3     ANDRE oa +1, LINK shock +1

Andre - > w3, Oa
MW - > shock, w3     ANDRE oa +1, shock

Andre - > w3, Oa
Oa - > shock, w3     ANDRE +1, OA shock +1

People have said he's not acting like a leader, I tend to agree. (Andre would also agree)

Root - > w3, Oa
Link - > shock, w3     ROOT oa +1, LINK shock +1

Not enough people will ever agree on this

Root - > w3, Oa
MW - > shock, w3     ROOT oa +1, shock      My world at start of day

Root - > w3, Oa
Oa - > shock, w3     ROOT +1, OA shock +1       I guess it's possible?

Oa - > w3, MW
Link - > shock, w3     OA +1, LINK shock +1       One of kaempfer's worlds at start of day

Oa - > w3, MW
MW - > shock, w3     OA +1, shock          My world right now

Link - > w3, Oa
MW - > shock, w3     LINK oa +1, shock       One of kaempfer's worlds at start of day

Link - > w3, Oa
Oa - > shock, w3     LINK +1, OA shock +1           One of kaempfer's worlds at start of day

Link - > w3, Missed
MW - > shock, w3     LINK +1, shock         Root's world right now

Link - > w3, Missed
Oa - > shock, w3     LINK +1, OA shock +1      One of kaempfer's worlds at start of day

[Linkcat]

Are we in agreement that I probably missed my N1 rather than hit Oa? Just to simplify. (I don't really see any of my cultists around)

[Linkcat]

I guess this doesn't include worlds from andre/Root that don't have kaempfer clear, let me know if you guys have any.

[Linkcat]

Root - > w3, Oa
MW - > shock, w3     ROOT oa +1, shock      My world at start of day

Root - > w3, Oa
Oa - > shock, w3     ROOT +1, OA shock +1       I guess it's possible?

Link - > w3, Oa
MW - > shock, w3     LINK oa +1, shock       One of kaempfer's worlds at start of day

Link - > w3, Oa
Oa - > shock, w3     LINK +1, OA shock +1           One of kaempfer's worlds at start of day

These worlds all suck btw, they require both leaders to have recruited almost complete inactives.

[Linkcat]

That leaves these as the most viable from a general point of view.

Oa - > w3, MW
Link - > shock, w3     OA +1, LINK shock +1       One of kaempfer's worlds at start of day

Oa - > w3, MW
MW - > shock, w3     OA +1, shock          My world right now

Link - > w3, Missed
MW - > shock, w3     LINK +1, shock         Root's world right now

Link - > w3, Missed
Oa - > shock, w3     LINK +1, OA shock +1      One of kaempfer's worlds at start of day

Damn, 3/4 of these include me.