Elements Mafia 78 - by serprex

[MasterWalks]

Cool64Kid (1) - Mobian
kaempfer13 (1) - Linkcat
Linkcat (2) - worldwideweb3, MasterWalks
Mobian (2) - kaempfer13, RootRanger

RootRanger breakdown still coming. Got busy and tipsy tho. Busy af tomorrow dunno if I'll be around for deadline. Dropping my vote now jic.
FYI, I don't think Mobian is leader. I haven't been recruited, I believe he would've recruited me or link first, and link is leader so no way. And if shock is to be believed, we all know he didn't recruit shock

[shockcannon]

If you're my cult leader put a emblem at the end of your next post so I know not to vote you.

[andretimpa]

Claiming a cop result should in no way be a confirmation that you are a townie (and hence not a leader), since people lie on the internet and there are no flips this game (totally not a bastard).

After thinking a bit more I think we should weight down the possible value of trying to cross the results of everyone's ability uses and on which point of the game these results should be revealed: maybe doing that with just one ability use is too easy for the cults to play around, but time is also not on town's side

Not sure what you mean exactly? Investigation is absolutely a vital tool. The ideal scenario is to have multiple players in disagreement about an investigation result, such that we'll know one of them is lying (and likely a leader).

Being more precise I was thinking of one of 3 strategies:

• We reveal our targets and results all rounds, starting with the more suspicious players
• Same thing but waiting more than one round
• We reveal any cultists that we find right away and after 2? 3? rounds we reveal all targets starting with the most suspicious players

[cool64kid]

Well, this game looks fun so far. Glad we're all having some fun discussions.

[MasterWalks]

Well, this game looks fun so far. Glad we're all having some fun discussions.

Conf town

[RootRanger]

Being more precise I was thinking of one of 3 strategies:

• We reveal our targets and results all rounds, starting with the more suspicious players
• Same thing but waiting more than one round
• We reveal any cultists that we find right away and after 2? 3? rounds we reveal all targets starting with the most suspicious players

Sounds good, I was thinking along the lines of the first option. I think that if someone finds a cultist, that information should be revealed, although not necessarily immediately. Just as long as it's before the end of the day, to give the rival leader the chance to kill the cultist in the night phase.

[kaempfer13]

If we reveal all our targets anyway we should coordinate to avoid crosstreams (e.g. taking mws signuplist and investigating one down, in future rounds obv a different pattern). An agreed order by suspicion for the reveal would further put leaders (and old cultists) on the spot.
There is some merit to having a second opinion on a claim ofc and by the time we have 2 results there may be 1 townie left...

[RootRanger]

Under 3 hours left and the vote is still tied. Anyone else want to vote? Keep in mind that (if I'm understanding this correctly) a tied lynch results in someone random being lynched out of the whole group, not just the players with votes on them. Not the best option.

Not sure how I feel about avoiding cross-streams on purpose, since I think those are actually our best way of getting information (cross-stream involves players potentially disagreeing about the result, meaning one of them is a potential leader).

[kaempfer13]

A compulsory order for when we make reavealing mandatory still makes sense either way, though I am still not sure if it is smart to publish all results (or even enforceable in this community). But lets worry about that later, shock,Oa,timpa and coolkid need to cast votes and we have the night to discuss the other thing.

[shockcannon]

Cool64Kid (1) - Mobian
kaempfer13 (1) - Linkcat
Linkcat (2) - worldwideweb3, MasterWalks
Mobian (2) - kaempfer13, RootRanger
No Lynch (1) - shockcannon

[RootRanger]

Oh wow so shock wasn't kidding when he said he was a cultist.

[kaempfer13]

shock, in this game "no lynch" is newspeak for completely random lynch (read rules). Even if your usual logic were correct, it doesnt apply here.