Round 2 - qwerter vs eaglgenes101

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MASTERMIND H2H

Mastermind qwerter's code eagl is solving it Difficulty: HARD 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 Mastermind eaglgenes101's code qwert is solving it Difficulty: HARD 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0

[DoubleCapitals]

I'm a doofus.
Code in a while.

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Both HARD codes are sent in!

However, eaglgenes101 offers playing both with Zero Attempt and with the following special rules:

Here are some rules that you can accept when playing against me. I will accept them back.
Each rule adds a custom symbol:
is null (always not the right symbol)
is void (for the guess, reported results act as if there was nothing in the space corresponding to the void for both guess and code)
is exception (reports if the space it is on corresponds to a symbol in the code nowhere in the guess, if doesn't report and there is a symbol in the code that appears nowhere in the guess, and nothing in all other cases)

Responses needed by qwerter before starting the game:

• Zero Attempt code (if he accepts)
• Accept/Decline of special rules

Please write these here in a comment, so the games can start instantly. Eagl already sent his 0-attempt to me, so once qwerter's half is here, the full code can be put together.

[DoubleCapitals]

I'd accept, but I don't get the rules at all. Care for examples?

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Here is how I interpreted the rules:
Null would be the symbol of nothing. So if normally a result would be  , it would be replaced to  .
Void is basically the same as Null, with the difference that it is order-reliant. For example:
The code is  and the guess was  . The result would normally be  , but with Null and Void, it would be , because the 3rd spot in the result would normally be Null ( ), and the 3rd spot in the guess is not in the code.
Exception is plain difficult even to try.

I myself would be avoiding these levels of special rules in a tournament, because these seem to fit Sandbox more. In a tournament, it's better to choose the playstyle you can identify yourself with. But it's really up to you qwert, whether you accept them or not.

What I know for sure, that you didn't tell your Zero Attempt code yet though.

[eaglgenes101]

Actually, it's this:
is used to block out possible sources of interference in the code. For example, if you tested , and got , you wouldn't know if it was , , , or that triggered the faces. But if you used , you could more easily figure out where the and are.

is used to block out symbols in the code as well. Whereas guessing against would return , guessing against the same code would return , making it a bit more helpful in determining the contents of the first two cells.

is used to determine if you're guessing the right symbols. If you guessed , and got , and you knew the , , and were correct, you wouldn't know if the 4th symbol was , , , , or what. But guessing gives a bit more info, since it'll return 4 faces if there are no repeats, and 3 if there are repeats.

Just a note: takes precedence over . So guessing against would return , with corresponding to the first matching to the , the first corresponding the the second matching to the , and the other corresponding to the .

And also, the person needs to guess the exact code to win, not just get . Otherwise, the game would be over after someone guessed .

[DoubleCapitals]

I'll send in my guess a while late, but I'm accepting.

Zero code 

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The Zero Attempt Code is 

Results being updated in the tables.

[eaglgenes101]

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None of these colors are in the code.

[eaglgenes101]

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