Witch's Game Mini - by Submachine

[kaempfer13]

I think there was nothing telling us the door was locked from the inside the second time.
My colleague let the culprit in after originally locking the door. They got into a violent argument, leaving the room a mess. Ultimately, the culprit stabbed my colleague to death with a knife. The culprit opened the window, left the room and locked the door with the key. When outside, they threw the key through the window back into the room and escaped.

[InsignificantWeeaboo]

The witch phased through the wall, killed the victim with a blunt object, locked the door, then phased through the window to escape.

The same scenario as above, except the witch shrunk herself to get through the window instead of phasing through the wall.

EDIT: didn't read the "your victim was not killed using a close ranged method" red truth

[shockcannon]

Your colleague died as a result of physical damage. He died immediately.

Colleague was a noob confirmed and forgot to use dusk mantle instead of improved dusk to fend off the attacker. Witch dumped jar of flesh spiders through the window before recollecting them after the murder with gravity pull. The tragic death was not mourned over by friends of the colleague because they knew colleague was a galaxy-sized nub.

[InsignificantWeeaboo]

Can we assume this is a red truth?:

Witch's Game is not related to Elements the Game in any way.

[kaempfer13]

Guys the purpose of the blue truths is to prove magic does not exist and it's possible to commit the murder underhuman constraints. Otherwise you are admitting magic exists and the witch wins per default (or rather doesnt have to answer with a red truth, as of course the witch wants you to believe she used magic). Although, if you dont know the plot of the vn this is from, it's understandable that that isn't clear from the current ruleset. or perhaps it's actually not true for this witch's game?
Also the red truth can not be used by a player and is confusing when scrolling for them.

Also the witch can still kill with a close ranged weapon so long as its not through a window etc.Every word matters with those truths.

[Submachine]

Red Truths are now compiled in the opening post!

I think there was nothing telling us the door was locked from the inside the second time.
My colleague let the culprit in after originally locking the door. They got into a violent argument, leaving the room a mess. Ultimately, the culprit stabbed my colleague to death with a knife. The culprit opened the window, left the room and locked the door with the key. When outside, they threw the key through the window back into the room and escaped.

I need to reuse a previous truth here.
Anyone who attacked your colleague would not lock the room's door from outside after he left the room.

The witch phased through the wall, killed the victim with a blunt object, locked the door, then phased through the window to escape.

The same scenario as above, except the witch shrunk herself to get through the window instead of phasing through the wall.

EDIT: didn't read the "your victim was not killed using a close ranged method" red truth

It is my bad that I didn't clarify this in the beginning. I was too focused on simplifying the rules.
The solution must be possible without the use of magic.

Colleague was a noob confirmed and forgot to use dusk mantle instead of improved dusk to fend off the attacker. Witch dumped jar of flesh spiders through the window before recollecting them after the murder with gravity pull. The tragic death was not mourned over by friends of the colleague because they knew colleague was a galaxy-sized nub.

Witch's Game is not related to Elements the Game in any way.

I feel like a joke answer would be the best for that Blue Truth, though I would not add that joke answer to the list of Red Truths in the opening post. But I already have this:
The victim was not killed by an animal. (Humans do not count as animals in this context.)

Also, kaempfer is right that only the Witch should post Red Truths to avoid confusing the other players. If you confuse the players, you are only helping the witch win, which you don't want.

[kaempfer13]

Hm the biggest challenge right now is to get the room locked with key inside while no person is hiding inside.

All else being the same as aboe scenario I want to test these:

The culprit wasnt hiding in the room when you entered. They were in plain sight, blood still dripping from the knife.

The culprit left through suicide and thus his soul wasnt in the room anymore without use of doors etc.

The culprit had no accomplice in the murder itself, but someone who locked the door for themafter they were finished.

[kaempfer13]

Oooo, while entrance is restricted to door and window (window not working), exit isnt restricted the same way. so can still exit via chute.

Adding to above blues:

The culprit locked the door from the inside with the real key and exited via rubbish chute.

[Fippe94]

The person you found in the room was just a doll, not a real human. You colleague actually died elsewhere.



Repeat this in red:

Right before you entered the room after having a staff member unlock it, no living person was inside the room.

The victim never left the room after you left the room.

Only 1 person died in this story.

[Submachine]

Hm the biggest challenge right now is to get the room locked with key inside while no person is hiding inside.

All else being the same as aboe scenario I want to test these:

The culprit wasnt hiding in the room when you entered. They were in plain sight, blood still dripping from the knife.

The culprit left through suicide and thus his soul wasnt in the room anymore without use of doors etc.

The culprit had no accomplice in the murder itself, but someone who locked the door for themafter they were finished.

The twist might be somewhere else. In the meantime:

When the staff member turned the spare key to unlock the door, no living person was inside the room.
This should also cover Fippe's request.

Noone committed suicide.

No more than one person was involved in the victim's death. This includes changing the crime scene before the staff unlocked the door.

Oooo, while entrance is restricted to door and window (window not working), exit isnt restricted the same way. so can still exit via chute.

Adding to above blues:

The culprit locked the door from the inside with the real key and exited via rubbish chute.

I extended a previous truth for this one.

Only the door and a window can exist as entrances and exits to the room.

A simple solution by closely looking at what the previous truths allow.

The person you found in the room was just a doll, not a real human. You colleague actually died elsewhere.



Repeat this in red:

Right before you entered the room after having a staff member unlock it, no living person was inside the room.

The victim never left the room after you left the room.

Only 1 person died in this story.

The victim's body didn't leave the room after he locked the door.

About only one person dying, I am willing to give you this truth, but I don't see how this furthers your investigation. Wouldn't this just make the list of Red Truths longer and more difficult to check?

[Fippe94]

So:
(gonna post some red truths here, but don't wrorry, they are all copy-pasted exactly from the first post)

Your colleague died as a result of physical damage. He died immediately.
A culprit could only use a weapon from inside the room.

Anyone who attacked your colleague would not lock the room's door from outside after he left the room.
The room has no windows big enough for a human to pass through.

So the culprit must have entered the room to kill the victim. However, he would have no way to lock the room afterwards. He cannot have exited through any other way than the door, but he didn't lock the door from the outside.

So, maybe it is possible to lock the door from the inside while being outside the room:

The victim was let through the door by the culprit, killed him, then exited the room. He then went right outside the window and reached his arm (or a pole or something) through the window, locked the door from the inside with the key, then left the key inside the room.

[Submachine]

In these cases, I count the person to be on the side of the wall where his legs are. In this case:

When a person stands outside the room, he cannot lock the door from the inside.

Regardless the used method.